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Pathmarajah Member Posts: 279 From: Penang Registered: Jul 2004
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posted November 14, 2005 03:02 PM
Bamkim and Gandhi on CasteFarida Majid George Orwell could get the sense of the political posturing of Gandhi and hence he remarked on its "shrewdness" in his 1949 essay, Reflections on Gandhi. Orwell was born in India, and so he sympathized with her plight under colonization. His essay, "Shooting an Elephant" will forever remain a classic, a most moving testimony to the evil workings of colonization.
Orwell's comments on Gandhi should be taken seriously because of his deep knowledge of the colonial mindset of the British imperialist policy makers and intellectuals, a mindset that he held in utter contempt. He could tell, like none of us can really, how Gandhi was playing the political card of the "untouchables" to the benefit of Gandhi's colonial masters, because Orwell knew the nuances. As far as I know, Gandhi could not read Sanskrit, and so was unschooled in the vast literature of Hundu Shastras, philosphy and jurisprudence. His sense of the Hindu "caste system" was what he had received about it from the British and other local writers. The imperial British administrators were obsessed with the idea of the Indian system of caste and endlessly analyzed it, not so much for the sake of real knowledge of how it actually functioned in the pre- colonial societies without exploitation of lower castes, but in an overall effort to malign Indian civilization. The common people of India were not plunged into the lowest depths of wretchedness and despondency, as Thomas Babington Macaulay and his colonizing cohorts falsely envisioned them to be before they took over India as a pretext for taking over India. It is important to have an understanding of how colonial rule actually changed the way caste was strctured in India. From the end of 18th century, by enacting a series of laws, the British changed land ownership, revenue collection and other agricultural and commerce laws whereby the peasantry and ordinary laborers were dispossessed and disenfranchised. They then codified the lower castes in such a way that smothered what fluidity in upward mobility the lower castes had in the past. New laws freed the Brahmins from traditional strictures of moral conduct and obligations, making them the group that most benefited from colonial opportunities. By the time the British left, the caste system of modern India had turned into reality as the one that the British had feverishly imagined it to be an instrument of extremely cruel social injustice. Bearing little or no resemblance to the pre-colonial economy or the way a hierarchical social arrangement functioned in the past, caste, as it is prevalent in India today, is the biggest system of institutional racism adversely affecting the largest number of people in the world. Other than the word shudra, all the words we use today to describe the lower castes are new-fangled, colonial, and Gandhian. Whoever heard of scheduled caste or the term Dalit in the 19th century? Harijan, a gratuitously imposed nomenclature by Gandhi is intended to make lowly people feel proud of being "God's creatures" and that should be good enough! To a writer like Bankimchandra Chattopadhyaya, the great Bengali writer writing in the 1870-80s, the word acchyut or untouchable was an adjective, not a common noun designating a class of human beings. Gandhi's shrewd tactics with his weirdly passionate ideas about the "caste system" being an integral part of Hinduism is a ploy to carry on the authoritarianism of imperialism even after the British left India. His penchant for the status quo of a racially segregated sociopolitical system was evident in his stint in South Africa as a young lawyer, where he pleaded for the Indians’ rights to be treated as non-blacks, closer to being treated as whites, or semi- whites. How much did Gandhi really know about Hinduism? How much did any ordinary person know? It was an easy job for him to present himself as one dedicated, out of the goodness of his heart, to alleviating the misery of these lowly people born in their lowly station. Being born as low caste is an inescapable fate -- with a hint that such birth was due to some bad "karma" that could not be helped and is due to an implied innate flaw of the low caste person himself or herself. In sharp contrast, we read the writings of Bankim, a superbly versed Sanskrit scholar, immensely proud of his scholarly Brahminical lineage and the numerous Bengali pandits' contribution to the body of Nayashastra, and other branches of philosophy, Sanskrit literature and juridical commentary. He was not himself a practicing, ritualistically observant Brahmin. Though obviously trained in his Brahminical studies, he pursued, as we all know, a newly devised weighty regimen of modern secular, Eurocentric education and was the first distinguished graduate produced by the newly established Calcutta University. As much as he was a produce of colonialism, he was also of the generation that was face to face with British imperialism. His was a genuine voice of anti- imperialism that boldly empathized with the dispossessed peasantry and the workers of Bengal, both the Hindu and the Muslim, due to colonial rule! Bankim detested Varna! He wrote against it with unmitigated scorn. And he wrote against it in a language that I have rarely seen any other writer express. There are many writers who wrote heart- wrenching tales of injustice due to caste discrimination ? the Bengali novelist Sharatchandra Chattopadhya was certainly one of the greatest of protesters against social injustice due to caste. His novels are marvelous studies of subtle manipulations through established, rule-governed Hindu social practices, and how a small section of the society undermines the other, larger section's basic humanity. But Bankim is the one who actually stated that Varna is the cause of all the backwardness and wretchedness of today's India. Unlike the British, and unlike Gandhi, Bankim does not talk about caste in essentialist terms. He talks about Varna in developmental terms through history, and concludes that the varna system ended up being no good for any body, not even the middle-tiered castes. He reserves his sharpest barbs for the Brahmins. Those Brahmins who created the great epic and romance literatures, laws and philosophies of India have gone astray, their mental faculties now as fallow as a desert, he laments. Since the traditional structure of the Hindu society is Brahmin-centered, and now, in the colonial era with the gaping blank at the center, I am sure, Bankim would have seen no use for preserving the caste system. Had Bankim been alive to witness Gandhi's political maneuverings, his costume drama (of wearing the langhoti, pretending to be one with the harijans, with his captive audience being the colonial Masters), he would have died in shame. Bankim was modern enough as a secular but proud as a Hindu, as a progressive 19th century Indian intellectual, as an internationalist or a 'multi-culturalist' as we call them these days, to have enthusiastically supported the abolition of the caste system. It is such a pity that there was only Gandhi at the table, no Bankim or any representation of his legacy bearer, when leaders of the Independence movement, including Ambedkar, Periyar and others approached Gandhi about the abolition of the caste system, and Gandhi steadfastly refused the proposal. Isn't it ironic that Gandhi is being upheld as the hero of the "untouchables," hailed as the Mahatma, and Bankim is being heralded as the "flag bearer" of the mean and contemptible brand of Hindutva goondaism? In the unswerving pursuit of truth and in possessing piercing insights into the follies of the domineering powers, Bankim was a precursor of Orwell. Like Orwell, he too would have been certain to have detected the pretensions of Gandhi and protested loudly against the preservation of the cursed caste system. 2005, Farida Majid
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posted December 18, 2005 12:40 AM
EndogamyIf you think about it, an endogamist is really a race discriminist and a purist. Deep down he has beliefs of race/jaati purity though outwardly he may not discriminate against another person. This is a more insidious kind of subtle discrimination. While it is alright to choose a spouse that shares one's beliefs for the purpose of a smooth and harmonious marriage and religious practices, it is not alright to discriminate against another of similar religious beliefs on matters of choosing marriage partners. What could be the reason for this discrimination if its not race/jaati purity which we know today from dna studies thats its the most erroneous of notions? People who hold race purity notions are simply ignorant. Put it another way, endogamists are ignoramusus, who are further constricting their gene pool to their own detriment. Where there is no endogamy, there can be no race or jaati. Where there is endogamy there will always be discrimination. It goes together you see. There is no Indian race! Indians from the northeast like Asomese, Manipuris, Nagas, Sikkimese, Mizos, Bodos, Chakmas, Gurkhas, Ladhakis are not really 'Indian' in the usual sense of the word. They are 'Oriental'. 'Indian' is just a nationality that denotes domicile as well as the language-culture of that nation. Like we say, 'Indian food'. We are not concerned with India and Indians. We are only concerned with Hinduism and Hindus, and that is universal. We have to make this mental disconnect between India and Hinduism, to delink Indians and Hindus, and only then will everything fall into place in our worldviews. Isn't the ultimate question of loss of endogamy that prevents most Hindu Indians from giving up casteism today? Isn't this the issue after all, and not quite the shastras which only serves as a useful punching bag to deflect the issue? Isn't this the issue that really comes to stump the reformer dead in his tracks?
Twenty million of us have emigrated to distant lands and cultures to live and work and to accept the host nation's goodwill. Our gurus too travelled to these lands to spread the good word of the Hindu and supplant temples there; yet we do not accept the people of the host nations as part of our the kutumbam, even if they are Hindu. Even while knowing fully well that we share genes with africans and europeans. There is an unkind word for this. Great Voyages In 100 BCE, Hindus arrived in North Malaysia. Over a thousand years they together with the locals established the Bujang Valley civilisation in over 200 sites. Over these thousand years there were frequent voyages between India and Malaysia. Naturally these Hindus interbred with the locals. According to Khmer records by 200 CE a Hindu reached the shores of Cambodia, married a princess and helped spread the religion and culture there. He and his entourage stayed on and over the millenium there were frequent voyages between these two nations. More interbreeding. By 300 CE Hinduism arrives in Java and Bali. And so on.. You know the story. Great Voyagers of the Second Millenium In the 11th century the Cholas establish a maritime empire in south east asia that was about 6 times larger than the Indian subcontinent, probably larger in area than the British empire ever was at its zenith. Just have a look at the map. The Cholas were the unipolar superpower in the first half of the millenium. The chola expeditions were the first of the large vogages, and the first in the last millenium. Then in the 15th century came the 7 voyages of Admiral Zheng He. Then came the europeans; the Spanish with Ferdinand Magellen, then the Portugese with Vasco Da Gama, then the Italians with Christopher Columbus, then finally with the Dutch, the British and the French. In all these expeditions and voyages there was conquest, occupation as well as migrations and regular Indian trade right up to China, Tanzania and further. Indians did migrate and intermarry with the locals all the time. In 2,000 years of migrations Hindus have always practised exogamy. You could see pictures of Eritreans, Somalians and Ethiopians but you will swear that those are pictures of Indians! I made the mistake myself in my office when I asked an Ethiopian couple if the were Indians and they replied , no! When I persisted asking if they were Indian Ethiopians, they replied, no, they are Native Ethiopians. Many of these people look just like your average Indian Joe Ramasamy and Valli-Jane. Same experiences in south east asia too. We are deluding ourselves if we think that Indians did not intermarry with locals upon migrating and that there are no Indian genes in the people of south east asia and africa. "India is known for her casteism which is based on such notions as purity of birth, commensality, and endogamy." Dr. V. V. Raman "People who hold race purity notions are simply ignorant." Pathmarajah Nagalingam "India learned more than any other nation and before many others that in the long run an influx of people into a country tends to enrich rather than diminish it." Dr. V. V. Raman We enrich ourselves thru exogamy. We have always been exogamous, until the recent past. Outflux of Indians enriches the Indians themselves and the religion too. Now this is a new and better way of looking at it, isn't it? Regards. Pathmarajah
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posted January 11, 2006 01:50 PM
Harijans Are Pillars of Hinduism - They Gave Us the Shastras Which are the most celebrated Hindu texts? Most would think of the Vedas, Bhagavad Gita, Mahabharata, Ramayana and Tirukkural. Who wrote or compiled those texts? Vyasa, who was born of a fisherwoman, and hence a Harijan, wrote or compiled the Vedas, Bhagavad Gita and Mahabharata. Valmiki, a hunter, and hence an Adivasi, authored the Ramayana. Tiruvalluvar, a Paraiyah by birth, wrote the most celebrated treatise in Tamil: the Tirukkural.
When you think of the great Saiva and Vaishnava Bhakti saints, the Nayanmars and Azhwars, the names of many celebrated Harijan saints such as Tiru Panazhwar, Tirumazhisai Azhwar, Enati Nayanar, Kannappa Nayanar, Atipattar Nayanar, Anayar Nayanar, Kaliar Nayanar, Tirukkurippu Tondar Nayanar, Tiru Nilakanta Nayanar, Tiru Nilakanta Yazhpanar and Nantanar Nayanar come to mind. Kalavai Venkat - We owe it to Dr. M.V. Nadkarni for a brilliant study titled: Is Caste System Intrinsic to Hinduism? [Economic and Political Weekly, November 8, 2003] wherein he has proved beyond anyone reasonable doubt that ìit is necessary to demolish the myth that caste system is an intrinsic part of Hinduism. Dr. Nadkarni further argues very convincingly that "the caste system emerged and survived due to totally different factors, which had nothing to do with Hindu religion". He concludes his study with a highly perceptive remark that the caste sytem "has collapsed today because all its functions have collapsed. It has lost whatever relevance, role, utility, and justification it may have had."
The caste system was never meant to create a Brahmin hegemony or was conceived as birth based. Brahmins were those venerated because they led a simple life and were devoted education and religious theology. But to become a rishi it was not necessary to be born of Brahmin parents. Valmiki, Veda Vyasa, Vishwamitra, and Kalidasa were not born in Brahmin families. Nor were Brahmins above the law. Dr. Subramaniam Swamy - By the way just a caution in relation to the MEANINGS in Rig Veda particulalry Purusha Suktam. In Rig Veda there was NO, as far as I am aware the notion of Brahmin as a caste. We see this once we RECOVER the Tamil Base of the Rig Veda and recover also the original meanings. The VD must have been a very late phenomena where it is very clearly available in Manu Smiriti, and many so called Dharma Sastras. Even in the time of Sambantar (c. 7th cent AD) there was Tamil Vedism and where the Vedists were not caste groups but rather Munivar (philosophers), Nan MaRaiyaLar (those well versed in the four Vedas), Pan MaRaiyaaLar (those who study all scriptures) and CenTamizoor (chaste Tamils). Sambantar saw himself as one of them and in that not at all a Brahmin solely by virtue of birth. In the earlier strata of PuRam we see the Tamils as a whole idenfying themselves with the Vedas as if they constitute their own scriptures etc. During that time and till about 16th cent AD there was no hatred towards Sk . In fact perhaps all the major books in Sk on Indian philosophies were written in the South. Recall that Sankara Ramanuja Madhva and so forth were from the South. So were Dharmakirti Dignatha and such other Buddhists Logicians. In CaGkam period the Tamils must have understood Sk as a kind of Tamil a view, I understand, some Brahmins in Kerala still maintain. Loga
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posted January 22, 2006 03:37 AM
On Dalits & Hinduism Why would the dalits want to leave their own religion? After all, they gave us this religion that we call Hinduism today. If you think about it, most of our saints and shastras came from dalits.
Vyasa, the author of the Vedanta Sutras and the Mahabharata and Valmiki were the progenitors of the Smartha and the Vaishnava sects. A number of vaishnava saints were dalits too. 'Thuvaraik Komaan' aka Krishna was a prevedic Tamil hill tribal god. We might as well call smarthaism and vaishnavism as the the dalit religion or the paraiyar religion. A number of saiva saints were dalits too. So, dalits gave us the bulk of shastras, the saints and the sects. There is no Hinduism without the dalits! Now, why would the dalits, our prajapatis, would want to become christians, when they already have an irreproachable place in Hinduism? No unintended pun here, but haven't they tirelessly taught us about humility? What more gurus - teachers of the faith, can anybody ask for? No offense meant please. Pathmarajah
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posted January 31, 2006 11:29 AM
Some Notes on South Indian Caste & History The scholar T R Sesha Iyengar in his Dravidian India (1925) states categorically as follows:
The Aryan theory, that mankind is divided into four varnas or groups of caste, such as Brahman, Kshatriya, Vaisya, and Sudra, was wholly foreign to the Southern Dravidians. Caste was non-existent. There is no reference to the term ‘sudra’ in the whole of the Tolkappiyam. In the words of Mr Manicka Naicker a transmutable, plastic, and barrierless professional distinction is all that is found in the work. The Tolkappiyam’s fourth class can never be identified with the degraded North Indian fourth class Sudra of any age. A caste system nearest to this can only be found in Dutt’s Rig Vedic castes. Manu’s compound castes cannot be gleaned the least in the Tolkappiyam. (p.180) Bhadriraju Krishnamurti in his Dravidian Languages (Cambridge University Press, 2003) says that Dravidians were scattered throughout the Indian subcontinent by the time Aryans entered India around 1500 BCE. It is certain that Dravidians were located in northwestern India, even as far as Afghanistan, by the time the Aryans entered the country around the middle of the second millennium BC. Rigvedic Sanskrit, the earliest form of Sanskrit known (c.1500BC), had over a dozen lexical items borrowed from Dravidian. The Dravidians were a highly civilized people, who lived in towns in tiled or terraced houses, with agriculture as the main occupation. They drew water from wells, tanks and lakes, and knew drainage. They also conducted trade by boat in the sea. But there are no reconstructible words for caste or caste names in the Dravidian languages of that age (p.21). Ancient Tamilians identified themselves with kulams (????? ) which were occupation-related social groupings. Nowadays, at least in some communities that I know of, the kulam affiliation corresponds to family lineage or deity (kula deivam), thereby precluding marriages within the same kulam (as amongst the Chinese, a Lim, for instance, will have to marry someone other than a Lim, e.g. a Tan or Goh), unlike the endogamy of varnic castes (i.e. marrying only within a caste). Sesha Iyengar further asserts: “The influence of the Dravidians on the culture of India has been ignored, because the literature which records the development of the Hindu religion in India was the work of a hostile priesthood, whose only object was to magnify its own pretensions, and decry everything Dravidian. But the truth is that the Dravidians had already developed a civilization of their own, long before the Aryan civilization was transplanted into their midst. The division of society among the Tamils shows that they had emerged out of savagery at a remote period, and had enjoyed an orderly, peaceful, and settled form of government for centuries. Their civilization was more ancient than that of the Aryas; for among the latter the fighting men were next in rank to the priests, whereas among the Tamils, the farmers were next to the religious men, and the military class was below that of herdsmen and artisans." (p.119) M S Purnalingam Pillai’s Tamil Literature (1929) lists the social classes in ancient Tamil society as Arivar (scholars or ascetics), Ulavar (farmers), Ayar (shepherds), Vedduvar (hunters), Kannalar (smiths), Padaiadchier (soldiers), Valayar (fishermen) and Pulayar (tanners). In the first division of ancient Tamil social classification were the Arivars, comprising the ascetic Anthanars or Aiyars (sages who have taken to ascetic life) and the scholarly Parppar (i.e. literally ‘those who look into books’ – and engaged in domestic / married life). Devaneya Pavanar in his The Primary Classical Language of the World (1966), says that the term Anthanar may, in some cases, be used collectively for both sub-divisions (Note 3). But this appellation would be later appropriated altogether by the Brahmins of Tamil Nadu as the creeping Aryan colonization tightened its grip on Tamil society with the ‘enticement’ of the gullible among the arasars (kings). It appears to be a case of ‘smothering by embrace’. It is likely that some of the Dravidian Anthanars were inducted into the ranks of the Aryan Brahmin caste that was embedding itself deeper into the host society. Ancient Tamil society was not aware of any divine mandate or karmic purpose to reserve education for any social group OR exclude any social group from education, contrary to the dictates of varnashramam. When Valluvar says: ???? ?????? ?????? ???????? ????? ???????? ?? (Let a man learn thoroughly whatever he may learn, and let his conduct be worthy of his learning), the message was not selectively targeted and was unqualified. It was meant for one and all. The right to education is not one to be earned by (type of) birth. Instead, education was seen as essential to make human birth right and wholesome. Take notice that this can spring only from a humanistic social philosophy and ethos, of which Valluvar was its greatest known exponent, NOT from a dehumanizing varnashramam which would be foisted later on the society to its enormous detriment. It was unfortunate that Manuvaatham ( ???????? ) or varnashramam eventually overpowered Kuraliyam ( ?????? -Kuralism). Next in the social order was the Uzhavar (farmer), also called Vellalar and Karalar (lord of the floods and seasons). They formed the landed aristocracy of the country, which naturally equipped them for commerce, scholarship and kingship. Agriculture is given prominence in the Kural, but ranked lowly in the Manu’s social order (Note 6). Tolkappiyam appears to reflect the change that Manuvaatham was already bringing about in the social order: it speaks of “four professional castes”, as Sesha Iyengar refers to them, viz. Anthanar, Arasar, Vanikar and Vellalar (Note 7). Even then learning is prescribed as a duty for all classes. In short, the above is an outline of what is, in one sense, the earliest colonization of India stretching from the times that it was (primarily) a Dravidian civilization. There is an essential difference between this and subsequent waves of colonization or invasion: it’s the degree of assimilation of the intruders into the host society, to paraphrase a remark by the scholarly former Indian Prime Minister Narasimha Rao (late). Sesha Iyengar’s Dravidian India (1925): Agriculture was practised by the Vellalas. From the higher kind of Vellalas, the major and the minor dynasties of kings were chosen. Next in rank to the Vellalas were the shepherds and huntsmen. Below these were the artisans such as goldsmiths, carpenters, potters, etc. After these came the military class, i.e. the Padaiachchier or the armed men. Last of all were the Valayar and Pulayar or the fishermen and scavengers respectively. The distinction of the four castes Brahma, Kshatriya, Vaisya, and Sudra observed by the Aryas did not exist among the Tamils. The expression ‘twice-born’, applied by the Aryans to those who were sanctified by the investiture of the sacred thread, was always used in ancient Tamil literature to denote only the Brahmans, and it is evident therefore that the Kshatriya and the Vaisya, who wore the sacred thread, were not known in Tamilakam. Dravidian Astronomy
Dr Maclean (‘Manual of Administration of the Madras Presidency’) observes, “The fishermen of the South, dependent on the moon’s phases for their operations early developed a primitive lunar computation of time. The agriculturists of the plains observed the seasons and the movements of the sun. The Tamils had a highly developed practical astronomy, before they were touched by Brahmanical influences, and their system still holds its ground in many respects. The Jovian cycle of five revolutions of Jupiter or sixty years, which regulates the chronology of the Tamilians, is no part of the Aryan system. The familiar period of twelve years for domestic events among the Tamils is similarly independent.” …… These remarks prove the independent origin of Dravidian astronomical science in South India, and hence should be borne in mind by scholars, when they contend that everything connected with astrology, astronomy, and time-measure in Tamil is from Sanskrit. Dravidian Commerce In the field of commerce, the activity of the ancient Dravidians has been equally striking. South India, the home of the Ancient Dravidians, was the heart and centre of the old world for ages. It was one of the foremost maritime countries, and was the mistress of the eastern seas….. The Dravidians of South India were accustomed to the sea. They formed a large proportion of the sailors of the Indian Ocean. It is believed that regular maritime intercourse existed between South India and Western Asia even before the 8th century B.C. Various proofs have been adduced to establish the high antiquity of the maritime intercourse of South India with West Asia. The Dravidian speaking races of India traded with the Ancient Chaldeans, before the Vedic language found its way into India. Indian teak, was found in the ruins of Ur, and it must have reached there from India in the fourth millennium B.C., when it was the seaport of Babylon and the capital of the Sumerian kings. “This particular tree grows in Southern India where it advances close to the Malabar coast and nowhere else; there is none to the north of the Vindhya (vide Ragozin’s Vedic India).” This shows how advanced and enterprising were the Dravidians even as early as 4,000 years ago. The Story of Joseph, who came to Egypt about 1700 B.C., is a notable evidence of the early caravan trade which, crossing Arabia, carried the merchandise of India to Egypt, Syria, and Babylonia. In the tombs, dating from the time of the 18th Dynasty of the Egyptian rulers which ended in 1462 B.C., were found mummies wrapped in Indian muslins. The Egyptians of those times, says Prof. Lassen, dyed cloth with indigo, and this vegetable product could have been obtained only from India at a time when the major portion of it was still non-Aryan…… Sesha Iyengar’s Dravidian India (1925): ….. The names of Marutham, the land where paddy and other grains are cultivated with the aid of irrigation, and of paddy, nel, are Dravidian terms. The term paddy was not known to the Aryans at the time of their first appearance (in India). Sir John Hewitt in his treatise on The Pre-historic Ruling Races says that the Dravidians were of all the great races of antiquity the first to systematize agriculture. Archaeology also confirms the evidence obtained from tradition, literature, and language as regards the acquaintance of the ancient Tamils with agriculture. The labours of Alexander Rea, M.J. Walhouse, Captain Newbold, Colonel Branfill, Burgess, Caldwell, R.B. Foote, R. Sewell, and other distinguished archaeologists have made us familiar with the existence of monuments such as rude stone circles, cromlechs, dolmens, menhirs, Kistvaens, urns, Tumuli, and Pandukulies at Adichanallur, Perumbair, Coimbatore, Pallavaram, Palmanir, Kollur near Tirukovilur, and many other places in South India. It is affirmed that the people, who use these burial urns, must have been an agricultural race, as brass and iron implements of agriculture were often found buried in their graves. The Dravidians had made much progess in the industrial arts. They worked in metals. The Dravidian name for a smith, karuma, from which the vedic Karmara is probably borrowed, meant a smelter. Their artificers made ornaments of gold, pearls, and of precious stones for their kings. The explorations of the Hyderabad Archaeological Society have brought to light pottery with incised marks resembling those of Minoan Crete. The Adichanallur remains, we have already indicated, consisted of bronze figures of a variety of domestic animals and of fillets of gold beaten very thin. These afford conclusive proof of the artistic development of the Dravidian races in pre-historic times….. Sesha Iyengar’s Dravidian India (1925) lists out the duties of the four classes as stated in Tolkappiyam: Anthanar or Parpar (Brahmans): learning, teaching, sacrificing, officiating at sacrifices, giving alms, and receiving alms. Arasar (King): learning, sacrificing, giving alms, protecting the people, crushing the wicked. Vanikar (merchants): learning, sacrificing, giving alms, cultivation, trade, and tending cattle. Vellalar: divided into two classes, the higher and the lower. The duties of the higher type of Vellalars are learning, sacrificing, giving alms, cultivating lands, trade, and tending cattle, while those of the lower type of Vellalars are learning (excepting the Vedas), giving alms, cultivating lands, tending cattle, trade, and services to others. Only certain duties were special to each class. The higher Vellalars and the merchant class had at first the same duties to perform, even though in actual practice each class specialized in one walk of life. The merchant class attended to commercial matters. The attention of the higher Vellalas was absorbed by high matters of state. They could enter into vocations allotted to the upper three classes. Nachchinarkiniar states that Vellalas could give their girls in marriage to those of the kingly class, serve in the army as commanders, and could become kings of the second class, and be called ‘Arasu” and 'Vel’ (Kurunilamannar). The Vellalas occupied a high position during the days of Tolkappiyar. In the words of Tiruvalluvar, the author of the Kural, they constituted the noble heritage of a nation. Arul
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posted February 16, 2006 12:56 PM
Dalit and HarijanOver time, Dalit and Harijan have become viewppoints about caste system, independent of religion and caste of the person. I would strongly recommend that hindu's like the present group too evaluate where they personally stand with respect to the following definitions. 1. Harijan is the viewpoint which does not have any problem with one human who accepts patronage from higher caste human. 2. Dalit is the viewpoint which encourages deserving and getting what is deserved, irrespective of the caste of the giver and receiver. Harijans are despicable becasue "highness" of caste is not based on merit. Most of the time, this non-merit based "highness" is the cause of their patrons positions and their control over power and resources. Harijans implicitly provides sanction to the "system" which grants the "highness" and thereby enslaves him/her. Essentially they are happy with small favors and never fight from freedom from their enslavement. Dalits on the other hand, never accept any kind of patronage and will go hungry or even die, but will refrain from doing anything whatsoever which can potentially provide any type of sanction to the "system" which parcels out "highness" without regard to merit. The target mental model of dalits about themselves is of achieveing economic, social and political independence and this gives them self- confidence to form/joining communities, which pursue their respective interests through democractic means. Harijans are happy to be servants of their upper caste patrons, who are equal citizens in their own communities and seek to become "independent" of their patrons based on slow growth through incremental patronage. Dalits insist that one can never become "independent" through patronage and that a struggle is always required to win independence from any kind of system which holds one in its thrall. Dalits seek to hence "fight" through the ballot boxes to bring about radical change, while Harijans continue to seek to garner incremental change. The problem with the current apology is that is assumes that the untouchables were never equal and that the NS group has come away and become "more equal". The apology is for not doing enough for bringing them "up" with the group. Untouchables could never have been untouchables through all past. Even if the NS group doubts the Buddhist origins of untouchables, how can one group of Indians have been untouchable through all past. No sub-group of humans will willingly put themselves into the despicable category that untouchables were put into. There has to have been equality at some point in the past. The horror of making a group of peer Indians into untouchables through some kind of force has to have occurred in India. Any apology which does not address the cruelty of making "equals" into "unequal" and merely focuses on the lack of efforts to make the "unequal" into "equal", which does not talk about the transition from "equality" to "inequality" and the denial over time of the rights of untouchables as equal human beings implicitly claims some super-natural cause for the inequality, which is clearly a socially caused malady. It is therefore implicitly supportive of the hierarchical beliefs present in the minds of those who wrote it and does not recognize the essential equality of all human beings. That is the reason I accused the NS group of not having imbibed the democratic values of equality, fraternity and liberty. I hope that it will be taken in the right spirit and appropriate modifications made. Better for you folks to make it. It actually might help you at some deep internal level. Pratap Tambay . . > 1. Harijan is the viewpoint which does not have any problem with one > human who accepts patronage from higher caste human. > 2. Dalit is the viewpoint which encourages deserving and getting what > is deserved, irrespective of the caste of the giver and receiver. If this defines, then all of us here are dalits, and henceforth I shall use the word dalits to refer to discriminated and ill treated Hindus. I had a relook at our draft Apology and if members agree we could insert the following para to avoid any gratuitious and presumptious inclinations that may be implicit: "It was the advent of the guna and varna theories that made a Hindu society in which all were equals without social and religious borders in the vedic and agamic spirit, into a divided, inhumane and ruinous one. Navyashastra fully recognises this and rejects unequivocally as heinious and despicable the varna and guna theories and all shastras that supports this. Navyashastra understands that all Hindus cannot be equals when such theories and the varna shastras are still amidst us. And we accept responsibility, apologise and stand in humility that we allowed these shastras to arouse our baser minds to divide, discriminate and degrade us." Regards. Pathmarajah PS Educate us on the buddhist origins of untouchables. I may not be surprised, as it may be in the origins of excommunication of peoples from Hindu society for embracing heretic faiths, blasphemy and heresy, which our saints fought against. The present day dalits may be the remnants of the once buddhists and jains who reverted to Hinduism but not quite accepted back into mainstream society.
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Think it over Caste: Beyond its passions and prejudices By M.S.N. Menon Reverence for the old is a commendable virtue. But it can turn into a curse. Such has been the case with the caste system. Savarkar calls it: “the greatest curse on Hinduism”. Every effort to blot it out has multiplied the evil.
The caste system creates social distance between man and man. As such, it is anti-social. It is also against the noble Hindu concept of the “human family”. To make matters worse, social distance turned into physical distance—the worst form of alienation. Unity and social cohesion became impossible after that. The Hindus became prey to foreign invaders. Their tragedy? They did not even know what caused their tragedy! The caste system is perhaps 3,000 years old. Mahavira and the Buddha were the first to reject it. Every reformer has since opposed it. The revolt has continued to this day. The Hindu civilisation is based on freedom of enquiry. Naturally, it promoted individualism. It went against unity and collective effort. Only a common language and religion could have brought the Hindus closer to each other. But, alas, the caste system prevented the study of Sanskrit among the lower castes and their participation in religion! To classify men according to their aptitude (Varnashrama) is natural. (Aptitude tests are common all over the world.) But only in India, it became hereditary. More lies had, therefore, to be told to make people accept it. But telling such “lies” was common. All in good spirit. The Panchatantra is a collection of fables. They are recited for didactic purposes—to educate princes in Rajadharma. Purusha Sukhta, on which the caste system is based, was largely fabricated by the priestly class to justify the caste system. But why so much of atrocities? Well, was not the inquisition known for its atrocities? In Hinduism, there is more bark, than bite. Hindu societies were never strict in their observance of scriptures. Thus, the Vaishyas did engage in battles. And Shudras were recruited into the protection forces. Vastupala, the great warrior under the Chalukayas, was a Vaishya. So was Ambada, who killed the great Mallikarjuna, a Kshatriya. And do you know that the Kashmiri and Hoyasala troops were composed largely of Shudras? (See Art of War in Ancient India by P.C.Chakravarty) The point is: If the rule was broken in one place, it could have been broken all over India. Ambedkar calls caste a “monstrous contrivance of social oppression”. Yes, it was. But the oppression in India was nothing compared to what the slaves suffered in Greece and Rome. A.L.Basham says in The Wonder That was India, that “the most striking feature of ancient Indian civilisation is its humanity.” Early Aryans had no caste. They were priests, soldiers and peasants. Caste is a human contrivance. Aurobindo says: Caste was originally an arrangement for the distribution of functions in society. It was made into a divine order by the priests. Three groups emerged at first: Priests, Kshatriyas and the rest. They represented the three gunas: Satvik, Rajasik and Tamasik. Surprisingly, we find the same division in Plato. He divided men into three groups on the basis of virtues: Wisdom, Courage and Temperance. He was influenced by Vedanta. Dr S.Radhakrishnan says: “Whatever might have been the historic basis for the development of the caste system, it has degraded the great ideals of the ancient Upanishads, which affirm, that the human being as such is a speck of the spirit, a ray of the divine. Yet we built stone walls separating peoples, exalting some as superior and branding others as inferior.” To Dr Radkahrishnan character is the only patent of nobility. That alone distinguishes one man from another. In the Ramayana, Rama tells Jabali, the Brahman cynic: “It is a man’s character and his deeds that determine whether he is a high or low born, pure or impure.” The birth principle had little support in the country, not even in the Rig Veda. Buddha opposed the purity principle. Remember, it led to untouchability. Untouchability is a monstrosity, says Gandhi. Efforts were made to combat it. But in vain. R.C.Dutt, the historian, writes of this priestly class: “The Brahmins as a caste are perhaps the most socially exclusive and reactionary.” But Gandhi needed their help against the British. In any case, the Congress was a den of casteists. Gandhi could make no impact on them. Did Shankara, our greatest philosopher, approve of the caste system? He did not. In Nirvana Shatakam, he says: there is no jati beda. And when Shankara created the ten ascetic orders, he banned caste in order to make them more cohesive. What is more, he chose Shudras to man the akharas (military wing attached to the mutts) The Muslim advent forced Hindus to close their ranks and stamp out any opposition to the caste system. It was made more rigid and fixed, says Nehru. Manu was no supporter of the Brahmins. He says: “Brahmins who tend herds of cattle, who trade, who practice mechanical arts—must be treated as if they are Shudras.” Alas, even the reformist Arya Samaj failed to expel such people from the Brahmin community! That could have solved the caste problem. How is one, then, to explain the persistence of the caste system? Above all, because of the support it received from the theories of karma and transmigration of souls. Perhaps from the principle of purity, also. Are we ready to give up the Karma theory? Not yet.
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posted March 25, 2006 12:25 PM
'CASTE' by Prof. Koenraad ElstCaste Verdict from Belgium This focuses on history and how jati and varn have, for the most part, helped rather than hurt Hinduism.
By Prof. Koenraad Elst Hinduism Today http://www.hinduismtoday.com September 1994 In an inter-faith debate, most Hindus can easily be put on the defensive with a single word -- caste. Any anti-Hindu polemist can be counted on to allege that "the typically Hindu caste system is the most cruel apartheid, imposed by the barbaric white Aryan invaders on the gentle dark-skinned natives." Here's a more balanced and historical account of this controversial institution.
Merits of the Caste System The caste system is often portrayed as the ultimate horror. Inborn inequality is indeed unacceptable to us moderns, but this does not preclude that the system has also had its merits. Caste is perceived as an "exclusion- from," but first of all it is a form of "belonging-to," a natural structure of solidarity. For this reason, Christian and Muslim missionaries found it very difficult to lure Hindus away from their communities. Sometimes castes were collectively converted to Islam, and Pope Gregory XV (1621-23) decreed that the missionaries could tolerate caste distinction among Christian converts; but by and large, caste remained an effective hurdle to the destruction of Hinduism through conversion. That is why the missionaries started attacking the institution of caste and in particular the brahmin caste. This propaganda has bloomed into a full- fledged anti-brahminism, the Indian equivalent of anti-Semitism. Every caste had a large measure of autonomy, with its own judiciary, duties and privileges, and often its own temples. Inter-caste affairs were settled at the village council by consensus; even the lowest caste had veto power. This autonomy of intermediate levels of society is the antithesis of the totalitarian society in which the individual stands helpless before the all- powerful state. This decentralized structure of civil society and of the Hindu religious commonwealth has been crucial to the survival of Hinduism under Muslim rule. Whereas Buddhism was swept away as soon as its monasteries were destroyed, Hinduism retreated into its caste structure and weathered the storm. Caste also provided a framework for integrating immigrant communities: Jews, Zoroastrians and Syrian Christians. They were not only tolerated, but assisted in efforts to preserve their distinctive traditions. Typically Hindu? It is routinely claimed that caste is a uniquely Hindu institution. Yet, counter examples are not hard to come by. In Europe and elsewhere, there was (or still is) a hierarchical distinction between noblemen and commoners, with nobility only marrying nobility. Many tribal societies punished the breach of endogamy rules with death. Coming to the Indian tribes, we find Christian missionaries claiming that "tribals are not Hindus because they do not observe caste." In reality, missionary literature itself is rife with testimonies of caste practices among tribals. A spectacular example is what the missions call "the Mistake:" the attempt, in 1891, to make tribal converts in Chhotanagpur inter-dine with converts from other tribes. It was a disaster for the mission. Most tribals renounced Christianity because they chose to preserve the taboo on inter-dining. As strongly as the haughtiest brahmin, they refused to mix what God hath separated. Endogamy and exogamy are observed by tribal societies the world over. The question is therefore not why Hindu society invented this system, but how it could preserve these tribal identities even after outgrowing the tribal stage of civilization. The answer lies largely in the expanding Vedic culture's intrinsically respectful and conservative spirit, which ensured that each tribe could preserve its customs and traditions, including its defining custom of tribal endogamy. Description and History The Portuguese colonizers applied the term caste, "lineage, breed," to two different Hindu institutions: jati and varn. The effective unit of the caste system is the jati, birth-unit, an endogamous group into which you are born, and within which you marry. In principle, you can only dine with fellow members, but the pressures of modern life have eroded this rule. The several thousands of jatis are subdivided in exogamous clans, gotr. This double division dates back to tribal society. By contrast, varn is the typical functional division of an advanced society -- the Indus/Saraswati civilization, 3rd millennium, BCE. The youngest part of the Rg-Ved describes four classes: learned brahmins born from Brahma's mouth, martial kshatriya-born from his arms; vaishya entrepreneurs born from His hips and shoodr workers born from His feet. Everyone is a shoodr by birth. Boys become dwij, twice-born, or member of one of the three upper varns upon receiving the sacred thread in the upanayan ceremony. The varn system expanded from the Saraswati-Yamuna area and got firmly established in the whole of Aryavart (Kashmir to Vidarbha, Sindh to Bihar). It counted as a sign of superior culture setting the arya, civilized, heartland apart from the surrounding mlechh, barbaric, lands. In Bengal and the South, the system was reduced to a distinction between brahmins and shudras. Varn is a ritual category and does not fully correspond to effective social or economic status. Thus, half of the princely rulers in British India were shoodr and a few were brahmins, though it is the kshatriya function par excellence. Many shoodr are rich, many brahmins impoverished. The Mahabharat defines the varn qualities thus: "He in whom you find truthfulness, generosity, absence of hatred, modesty, goodness and self- restraint, is a brahman. He who fulfills the duties of a knight, studies the scriptures, concentrates on acquisition and distribution of riches, is a kshatriya. He who loves cattle-breeding, agriculture and money, is honest and well-versed in scripture, is a vaishya. He who eats anything, practises any profession, ignores purity rules, and takes no interest in scriptures and rules of life, is a shoodr." The higher the varn, the more rules of self- discipline are to be observed. Hence, a jati could collectively improve its status by adopting more demanding rules of conduct, e.g. vegetarianism. A person's second name usually indicates his jati or gotra. Further, one can use the following varn titles: Sharma (shelter, or joy) indicates the brahmin, Varma (armour) the kshatriya, Gupta (protected) the vaishya and Das (servant) the shoodr. In a single family, one person may call himself Gupta (varn), another Agrawal (jati), yet another Garg (gotra). A monk, upon renouncing the world, sheds his name along with his caste identity. Untouchability Below the caste hierarchy are the untouchables, or harijan (literally "God's people"), dalits ("oppressed"), paraiah (one such caste in South India), or scheduled castes. They make up about 16% of the Indian population, as many as the upper castes combined. Untouchability originates in the belief that evil spirits surround dead and dying substances. People who work with corpses, body excretions or animal skins had an aura of danger and impurity, so they were kept away from mainstream society and from sacred learning and ritual. This often took grotesque forms: thus, an untouchable had to announce his polluting proximity with a rattle, like a leper. Untouchability is unknown in the Vedas, and therefore repudiated by neo-Vedic reformers like Dayanand Saraswati, Narayan Guru, Gandhiji and Savarkar. In 1967, Dr. Ambedkar, a dalit by birth and fierce critic of social injustice in Hinduism and Islam, led a mass conversion to Buddhism, partly on the (unhistorical) assumption that Buddhism had been an anti-caste movement. The 1950 constitution outlawed untouchability and sanctioned positive discrimination programs for the Scheduled Castes and Tribes. Lately, the Vishva Hindu Parishad has managed to get even the most traditionalist religious leaders on the anti-untouchability platform, so that they invite harijans to Vedic schools and train them as priests. In the villages, however, pestering of dalits is still a regular phenomenon, occasioned less by ritual purity issues than by land and labor disputes. However, the dalits' increasing political clout is accelerating the elimination of untouchability. Caste Conversion In the Mahabharat, Yuddhishtthir affirms that varn is defined by the qualities of head and heart, not by one's birth. Krishna teaches that varn is defined by one's activity (karm) and quality (guna). Till today, it is an unfinished debate to what extent one's "quality" is determined by heredity or by environmental influence. And so, while the hereditary view has been predominant for long, the non- hereditary conception of varn has always been around as well, as is clear from the practice of varn conversion. The most famous example is the 17th-century freedom fighter Shivaji, a shoodr who was accorded kshatriya status to match his military achievements. The geographical spread of Vedic tradition was achieved through large- scale initiation of local elites into the varn order. From 1875 onwards, the Arya Samaj has systematically administered the "purification ritual" (shuddhi) to Muslim and Christian converts and to low-caste Hindus, making the dwij. Conversely, the present policy of positive discrimination has made upper-caste people seek acceptance into the favored Scheduled Castes. Veer Savarkar, the ideologue of Hindu nationalism, advocated intermarriage to unify the Hindu nation even at the biological level. Most contemporary Hindus, though now generally opposed to caste inequality, continue to marry within their respective jati because they see no reason for their dissolution. Racial Theory of Caste Nineteenth-century Westerners projected the colonial situation and the newest race theories on the caste system: the upper castes were white invaders lording it over the black natives. This outdated view is still repeated ad-nauseam by anti-Hindu authors: now that "idolatry" has lost its force as a term of abuse, "racism" is a welcome innovation to demonize Hinduism. In reality, India is the region where all skin color types met and mingled, and you will find many brahmins as black as Nelson Mandela. Ancient "Aryan" heroes like Raam, Krishna, Draupadi, Ravan (a brahmin) and a number of Vedic seers were explicitly described as being dark-skinned. But doesn't varn mean "skin color?" The effective meaning of varn is "splendor, color," and hence "distinctive quality" or "one segment in a spectrum." The four functional classes constitute the "colors" in the spectrum of society. Symbolic colors are allotted to the varn on the basis of the cosmological scheme of "three qualities" (triguna): white is sattva (truthful), the quality typifying the brahmin; red is rajas (energetic), for the kshatriya; black is tamas (inert, solid), for the shoodr; yellow is allotted to the vaishya, who is defined by a mixture of qualities. Finally, caste society has been the most stable society in history. Indian communists used to sneer that "India has never even had a revolution." Actually, that is no mean achievement. Address: Professor Koenraad Elst, PO box 103, 2000 Leuven 3, Belgium. Dr. Elst is a Belgian scholar who has extensively studied the current socio-political situation in India. Keenly interested in Asian philosophies and traditions from his early years, he has studied yoga, aikido and other oriental disciplines. Between 1988 and 1993 he spent much of his time in India doing research at the prestigious Banaras Hindu University. http://www.hinduismtoday.com/archives/1994/9/1994-9-12.shtml
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From Manusmriti to Madhusmriti Flagellating a Mythical Enemyby Madhu Kishwar http://www.infinityfoundation.com/ECITmythicalframeset.htm On March 25 of this year, copies of Manusmriti were burnt by reformers protesting against the ill-conceived installation of the statue of Manu in the precincts of the Rajasthan High Court. The protestors believed that the text is the defining document of Brahmanical Hinduism, and also the key source of gender and caste oppression in India. In the ensuing controversy defenders of Manusmriti projected it as a pivotal canonical source of religious law for Hindus.
In a somewhat similar fashion, Deepa Mehta's film Water revived an ongoing controversy about whether those who exploit and downgrade women are following shastric injunctions. In the course of trying to explain why this debate amounts to a misunderstanding of the role of the shastras in Hindu religious life, I commented in a recent TV interview that Manusmriti (and other shastric texts) have as much or as little authority for Hindus as have Madhusmriti (my writings) - or for that matter the pages of Manushi, for its subscribers. This perfectly serious statement was dismissed as "facetious" by many feminists (see for example, Images of Widowhood in The Hindustan Times of Feb. 19, 2000 by Urvashi Butalia and Uma Chakravarti). Others, claiming to speak on behalf of Hindu culture, took my comment as an insult to the great shastrakar himself. These diverse responses indicate that there is a serious misconception among the modern educated elite over the actual status and role of the shastras in our religious life and cultural traditions. The confusion is not theirs alone; these common misrepresentations are an unfortunate byproduct of our colonial education which we slavishly cling to, even though it is more than five decades since we declared our Independence. We keep defending or attacking the same hackneyed quotations from the shastras and the epics which, incidentally, colonisers used for the purpose of creating a new discourse about these writings. Their inaccurate and biased interpretations have continued to inspire major misreadings of our religious tenets.* The Search for Non-Existent `Hindu Fundamentals' The Englishmen who came as traders in the 17th century were befuddled at the vast diversity and complexity of Indian society. Having come from a culture where many aspects of family and community affairs came under the jurisdiction of canonical law, they looked for similar sources of authority in India. They assumed, for example, that just as the European marriage laws were based in part on systematic constructions derived from church interpretations of Biblical tenets, so must the personal laws of various Indian communities similarly draw their legitimacy from some priestly interpretations of fundamental religious texts. In the late 18th century, the British began to study the ancient shastras to develop a set of legal principles that would assist them in adjudicating disputes within Indian civil society. In fact, they found there was no single body of canonical law, no Hindu Pope to legitimise a uniform legal code for all the diverse communities of India, no Shankaracharya whose writ reigned all over the country. Even religious interpretations of popular epics like the Ramayana failed to fit the bill because every community and every age exercised the freedom to recite and write its own version. We have inherited hundreds of recognised and respected versions of this text, and many are still being created. The flourishing of such variation and diversity, however, did not prevent the British from searching for a definitive canon of Hindu law. Perhaps more egregiously, in their search, the British took no steps to understand local or jati based customary law or the way in which every community - no matter how wealthy or poor - regulated its own internal affairs through jati or biradari panchayats, without seeking permission or validation from any higher authority. The power to introduce a new custom, or change existing practices, rested in large part within each community. Any individual or group respected within that biradari could initiate reforms. This tradition of self- governance is what accounts for the vast diversity of cultural practices within the subcontinent. For example, some communities observe strict purdah for women, whereas others have inherited matrilineal family structures in which women exercise a great deal of freedom and social clout. Some disapprove of widow remarriage, while others attach no stigma to widowhood and allow women recourse to easy divorce and remarriage. The multiplicity of codes was a major reason for the wide divergence in judgments, interpretations and reports provided by the pandits appointed to assist British judges presiding over the newly established colonial courts. Often, the same pandits even gave different opinions on seemingly similar matters, confounding the judges of the East India Company. The British began to mistrust the pandits and became impatient with having to deal with such a range of customs that had no apparent shastric authority to back them, since that made it difficult for them to pose as genuine adjudicators of Hindu law. The British were even more nonplussed because they had a history of using the common law system, based on precedent. However, given the myriad opinions of the Indian pandits, they couldn't depend on uniform precedents to make their own judgments. An Anglo-Brahamanical Hybrid In order to arrive at a definitive version of the Indian legal system that would mainly be useful for them, the East India Company began to recruit and train pandits for its own service. In 1772, Warren Hastings hired a group of eleven pandits to cooperate with the Company in the creation of a new digest of Hindu law that would govern civil disputes in the British courts. The Sanskrit pandits hired to translate and sanction this new interpretation of customary laws created a curious Anglo-Brahmanical hybrid. The resulting document, printed in London under the title, A Code of Gentoo Laws, or, Ordinations of the Pandits, was a made-to-order text, in which the pandits dutifully followed the demands made by their paymasters. Though it was the first serious attempt at codification of Hindu law, the text was far from accurate in its references to the original sources, or to their varied traditional interpretations. The very idea of "Hindu" law, in fact, was as much a novelty as the idea of a pan-Indian Hindu community. In the pre-British era, people of this subcontinent used a whole range of markers based on region, jati, language, and sect to claim and define their identities. Hardly anybody identified themselves as "Hindu" - a term first introduced by foreigners to refer to people living across the Indus River. The British lent new zeal in bringing actual substance to the new identity markers imposed by Europeans on the diverse non-Muslim inhabitants of the subcontinent. The codification of their so- called "personal laws" became an important instrument in that endeavour. Maha Pandit William Jones This codification still could not put an end to the conflicts of opinion. The British mistrust of the pandits increased, along with their frustration at the way they thought they were misleading the court primarily by favouring the interests of their own caste, and dealing with a spectrum of customs that were not certified by any apparent shastric source. The resulting confusions and reports of corruption led William Jones to work on a more 'definitive' code of Hindu law, as a reference work for Europeans in India. Jones' statement says it all: "I can no longer bear to be at the mercy of our pandits who deal out Hindu law as they please, and make it at reasonable rates, when they cannot find it ready made." (Derret, p. 244) He was determined that the British should administer to the Indian people the best shastric law that could be discovered. Jones went on to translate Manusmriti. It became one of the most favoured texts of the British. A policy decision was taken at the highest levels in the India Office to keep this particular document in circulation and project it as the fountainhead of Hindu jurisprudence, for the purpose of perpetuating the illusion that the British were merely enforcing the shastric injunctions by which Hindus were governed anyway, and that they had inherited the authority to administer this law. Thus Manusmriti came to influence Oriental studies in the West far more profoundly than it had ever influenced the practices of any actual living communities in pre-British India. After Jones, Colebrook tried his hand at a similar compilation. In a few years time, Colebrook's translations of the Mitakshara and the Dayabhaga became the two most frequently referenced sources in court judgments. At the same time, several Sanskrit scholars were also writing legal treatises, but the work of European authors on shastric law was held in higher authority than even the genuine Sanskrit shastric works. The British consistently promoted the myth that Hindus were governed by their codified versions of shastric injunctions. The modern educated elite in India, whose knowledge of India comes mainly from English language sources, were thenceforth systematically brainwashed into believing that the British were actually administering Hindu personal laws through the medium of the English courts. This was part of a larger myth-building exercise, whereby the people of the subcontinent were taught that theirs was a stagnant civilisation. The ignorant assumptions of our colonial rulers, that social stability in India was due to the supposed proclivity of its people to follow the same old traditions, customs and laws that had allegedly remained moribund for centuries, slowly came to acquire the force of self- evident truth over a period of time, both for those supporting as well as those opposing British rule. Custom vs Anglo Shastric Law Since then, the dynamism of customary law has been in constant conflict with the frozen and artificial Anglo-Shastric law. Dharmashastras, for instance, were not strictly religious treatises. Dharma itself means the aggregate of duties and obligations - religious, moral, social and legal - delineated for every individual and collective performing a specific role in society. For example, the obligations and duties of a person in his role as a king (raj- dharma) are different from his obligations as a husband or son (pati- dharma or putra-dharma). Similarly, guru-dharma demands specific responsibilities from a teacher just as shishya-dharma binds students to their own set of obligations. Even war demanded a very rigorous code - yuddha-dharma. The list is endless and refers mostly to secular duties. Similarly, the smritis are collections of precepts written by the rishis, the sages of antiquity. Smritis are presumed to be the compositions of human authors, not gods; these authors make it clear that they are merely anthologising traditions handed down to them over generations. They did not hesitate to propose changes and reforms in their writings. For instance, Apastamba, whose work embodies the customs of certain regions of southern India, and who authored one of the most respected Sutras, takes care, at the end of his work, to impress his pupils with the statement: "Some declare that the remaining duties (which have not been taught here) must be learnt from women and men of all castes." He adds, "the knowledge which... women possess is the completion of all study." (Mulla, Principles of Hindu Laws, N.M. Tripathi Pvt., 15th ed., 1986, p. 15). Neither shastras nor smritis suggest that there exists an immutable, universal moral doctrine. Rather, they emphasise that codes of morality must be specific to time, person, and place, and evolve according to changing requirements. For example, Narada states, "custom is powerful and overrides the sacred law." Manusmriti itself stresses that the business of the ruler is not to impose laws from above but that, "a king... must inquire into the law of castes (jati), of districts (Ganapada), of guilds (Shreni), and of families (kula), and settle the peculiar law of each...Thus have the holy sages, well knowing that law is grounded on immemorial custom, embraced as the root of all piety good usages long established." (Mulla, Principles of Hindu Laws, 15th ed., 1986, p. 23). The authority to change or create new customs rests with not just the biradari but also the kula or family. Our smritikars repeatedly stress the primacy of custom and practice over textual axioms. People as Law Makers Since different smritikars documented the customs of different communities, there were substantial differences in their approaches, perspectives, and precepts. But characteristically, none of the smritikars deny the authority of other smritikars or attempt to prove that theirs is the supreme, most authoritative version of a code of conduct. They acknowledge that the authority of the king and the law are derived from the people. Most of the leading smritikars make explicit statements to this effect. The Smriti of Yajnavalkya, for instance, lists twenty sages as law givers. The Mitakshara explains that the enumeration is only illustrative and Dharmasutras of others are not excluded. Nor is the authority of any shastrakar assigned hierarchical importance. The smritikars were not rulers. Nor did they owe their authority to any sovereign political or military power. The authority of the codes they enjoined were not enforced by punitive measures. Their influence depended solely on the voluntary internalisation of such value systems by the groups to which they addressed themselves to, and people's respect for their judgement. Actual enforcement was left in the hands of the local communities. An oft-repeated maxim was that reason and justice are to be accorded more regard than mere texts. Most important of all, a dharmic code, in the rishis' view, was one that was "agreeable to good conscience." Gandhi is one of the few modern social reformers to have understood this principle underlying the shastras. Therefore, he could unhesitatingly declare: "My belief in the Hindu scriptures does not require me to accept every word and every verse as divinely inspired... I decline to be bound by any interpretation, however learned it may be, if it is repugnant to reason or moral sense." (The Collected Work of Mahatma Gandhi, The Publication Division, Government of India, Vol. XXI, p. 246) He goes on to add: 1) I believe in varnashrama of the Vedas which in my opinion is based on absolute equality of status, notwithstanding passages to the contrary in the smritis and elsewhere. 2) Every word of the printed works passing muster as `Shastras' is not, in my opinion, a revelation. 3) The interpretation of accepted texts has undergone evolution and is capable of indefinite evolution, even as the human intellect and heart are. 4) Nothing in the shastras which is manifestly contrary to universal truths and morals can stand. 5) Nothing in the shastras which is capable of being reasoned can stand if it is in conflict with reason." (The Collected Work of Mahatma Gandhi, Vol. LXII, p. 121). Gandhi could present himself as a modern day sage calling upon people to overthrow beliefs and practices that did not conform to principles of equality and justice - or went against "good conscience" - because he had inherited a tradition whereby the power to change its own customary law rested with each community. People in India have demonstrated time and again that they are willing to accept changes in their customs, provided those who propose change take the trouble to win the confidence of the community, rather than attack or humiliate the community as hostile outsiders. The success of the 19th century social reformers is testimony to this inherent flexibility of Hindu communities. In recent decades, the work of Swadhyaya in parts of western India, the Radhasoamis in Northern India, and many other reform movements have carried forward the same tradition. Practice of Self-Governance Thus, the practice of self-governance continues to be a dynamic tradition in India. Each caste, sub-caste and occupational grouping continues to assert its right to regulate the inner affairs of its own community and does not pay much attention to either ancient textual authorities or to modern parliament-enacted laws. When an individual or a group in India seeks to defend a particular practice, the common statement one hears across the country is, "hamari biradari mein to yeh hi chalta hai" (This is how we do things in our community) - rather than quotations from the shastras. Those who insist on attributing our social ills to the shastras repeat the mistake of our colonial rulers. Just as a doctor can kill a patient through wrong diagnosis and treatment of the disease - no matter how benign the intention - in the same manner social reformers can wreak havoc on the people if their understanding of social ills is flawed. Discrimination against women or Dalits is neither inherently 'Hindu' nor is it scripturally mandated. This is not to suggest that such practices do not exist. Sadly enough, the disgraceful treatment of Dalits and downgrading of women are among the most shameful aspects of contemporary Indian society. But they will not disappear by burning ancient texts because none of the 'Hindu' scriptures have projected themselves as commandment-giving authorities demanding unconditional obedience from all those claiming to be Hindus. For example, oppressive widowhood was and is practised only in certain castes and communities in some regions among the Hindus. According to the 1901 census, the ban on widow remarriage applied to only ten percent of all the communities in India. And yet, in colonial critiques, this ban came to be projected as the universal situation of all widows in India. If we look closely, we will find that many of the older widows have ended up in exploitative institutions of Varanasi and Vrindavan not because of Manu's commands, or any other religious stipulations, or even the dictates of some contemporary patriarch. They are there primarily because of the failure of their community to provide secure rights for women in the family and many are there even because of ill- treatment by their daughters-in-law. It is also important to remember that of all the millions of widows only a few thousand end up in places like Vrindavan and Varanasi. True, many may live oppressed lives within their own homes. But it is also true that many others live respected lives as honoured matriarchs. If all Indian women are so subordinate, as suggested by a certain kind of feminist literature, we would not so frequently encounter the phenomenon of the dominating mothers-in-law who, in many homes, has the power to make or break their children's marriages. Nor would we witness innumerable older women putting up with humiliation and neglect because their daughters-in-law have come to acquire such a powerful hold over their husbands that they can make them abuse their own mothers. Those who find this description of the situation far-fetched should do a survey of their own families. They are likely to find both these extremes coexisting within their own family circles, along with instances of fairly balanced and reasonably happy equations. We are free to rid ourselves of any text that debases women or certain castes. Let us not imagine that Manu or any other shastrakar is obstructing our efforts to improve the lot of women or other oppressed groups. Despite some of the very negative and offensive things he might have said from our point of view (which many scholars hold to be later interpolations)** Mr. Manu did have the proper sense to pronounce that good karma was more important than biological lineage. He also emphasised that families and societies which demean women and make them lead miserable lives inevitably move towards destruction. He noted that truly prosperous families are only those in which women are honoured and happy. I believe that Manu bhai would fully endorse my writing a Madhusmriti, no matter how much I differ with him. He would probably rejoice in the fact that many people of today prefer Madhusmriti to Manusmriti because Manu, like all other smritikars, emphasised that codes of morality are not fixed by some divine authority, but must evolve with respect to the changing requirements of generations and communities. * For a more detailed analysis see Duncan Derret, Religion, Law and State in India. The Free Press, New York, 1968; also see Codified Hindu Law: Myth and Reality by Madhu Kishwar, Economic and Political Weekly, Vol. XXIX, No. 33, August 13, 1994. ** See for example The Manusmriti, with critical commentary by Dr. Surendra Kumar, Arsh Sahitya Prachar Trust, Delhi, pp.452-53.
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Caste in Sri Lanka In Sri Lanka, there is a caste system among the Sinhala Buddhists, but it is not very strong and it has been weakening since independence. There is no untouchable caste nor is there caste violence; thus caste for the Sinhala Buddhists in many ways cannot be compared to caste in India (or Jaffna for that matter). Previously it was an issue for marriage, but this is dying out. In ancient pre- Buddhist times, the Sinhalese appeared to have the same varna system as found in the Vedas, with Brahmins, Kshatriyas, and so forth. This continued for a few hundred years after Buddhism was established in Sri Lanka. Then around the 2nd century CE, caste seemed to have disappeared.. no mention of it came up either in the historical chronicles or inscriptions. About 800 years ago, caste resurfaced but no longer along the old varna lines. Instead there was a remarkable similarity with the caste system as found among the Tamils, without the Brahmins. The highest (and oldest) Sinhala caste is Govigama which is the same as Tamil Vellala. There is the Karava caste which originally came from the Tamil Karaiyar.
Interestingly, the Batticaloa Tamils also have a weak caste system, even though they are Hindu not Buddhist. Nisala
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posted May 05, 2006 12:57 PM
VHP on SmirthisThe "Manu Smriti" or the "Yagyavalkya Smriti" has no connection with Adi Manu or the Sage Yagyavalkya. The "Smritis" were written during the reign of Pushyamitra about 2200 years ago. There is no reference of such Smritis in the Mahabharata. There are two portions in the Smritis; one is 'Yama' and the other is 'Niyama'. 'Yama' consists of eternal values while the 'Niyamas' were the periodic governing laws or codes of conduct meant for running the affairs of the state of the then kings. There are more than three hundred Smritis. They have little to do with the eternal values of Dharma. These have been responsible for gross discrimination that is alien to our concept of 'Ekaatmataa' (Ekaatm Bhaava/Integralism) that is expounded in our ancient scriptures, the Shrutis (the four Vedas - the eternal revealed scriptures) and the Upanishads. Caste untouchability never existed in our society. It is the creation of the Muslim rule because those who put up a fight and did not convert to Islam were punished for their commitment to their indigenous ethos and thrown out of the society as untouchables. These heroic people are enlisted as scheduled castes. We must differentiate between the 'scheduled castes' and the 'Shudras'. Shudras were held with respect before the advent of the Smritis and the scheduled castes are of recent origin created during the muslim rule. The Vishva Hindu Parishad totally rejects the "Manu Smriti" as it has no place in a civilized society. The Adi Manu Smriti is the Gita as revealed in Chapter IV of the Gita. The Dharma Sansad and the Margadarshak Mandal of Vishva Hindu Parishad constituted of Dharmacharyas, Sants, Mahamandaleshwars and Mahants have totally rejected caste discrimination. They give 'Mantra Deeksha' without any discrimination. In the Vedas, there is no discrimination amongst the four Varnas. All are considered genius and masterminds in their own fields and all looked upon one another with respect. Recitation of the Vedic Mantras in daily life was practiced by the entire society irrespective of Varna. As for the Ashram Vyavastha, it enabled the individual-self to gradually unfold and expand his/her horizon of consciousness from micro-self through family, creed, nationality and ultimately attained absolute perfection by identifying with the universal self, the omnipresent divine self. Man started his journey as an individual Brahmachari, proceeded to Grihastha Ashram, then Vaanaprastha Ashram when he dedicated himself to the service of humanity, and finally accepted the Sannyaas Ashram in which he had to surrender his individual self at the feet of the divine for ultimate salvation. (Ashok Singhal) President Mr Singhal is now - at long last - reaching the point where Ambedkar and Periyar were already nearly three-quarters of a century ago. This is evidenced by Singhal's unequivocal pronouncement: “The Vishva Hindu Parishad totally rejects the "Manu Smriti" as it has no place in a civilized society.” Also see: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/akandabaratam/message/22256 Fight casteism, return to Vedant-Vasant Sathe 2. But, unfortunately, it appears to be a case of growing out of myopia without any improvement in astigmatism. Mr Singhal is still not able to see that the Gita has been contaminated by the Varnashramam as enuciated by the Manusmrti. For instance, Gita’s Krishna admonishes it would be better to perform one’s own (inherited) profession (karma) badly rather than (seek to) excel in another, i.e. profession that one is not born into. 3. Let’s remain hopeful that the VHP will slowly but surely wake up to the facts about Hinduism, and join the reformists / universalists in rejuvenating Hinduism. They should also know that the recovery of religion would and must include the people taking back their temples, and directly engaging the deities therein in languages intelligible to them (the people). Anbudan ARUL http://anbudanarul.blogspot.com
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http://www.nipissingu.ca/department/history/MUHLBERGER/HISTDEM/INDIADEM.HTM Democracy in Ancient India by Steve Muhlberger, Associate Professor of History, Nipissing University. Extract: Such Brahmanical classics as the Mahabharata, the writings of Kautilya and the Manu-Smrti, works that promoted hierarchy, are manifestations of a later movement (300 B.C.-200 A.D.) away from the degree of egalitarianism that had been achieved. Kautilya, who is traditionally identified with the chief minister of the Mauryan conqueror Chandragupta Maurya (fl. after 300 B.C.), is famous for his advice to monarchs on the best way to tame or destroy ganas through subterfuge; perhaps a more important part of his achievement was to formulate a political science in which royalty was normal, even though his own text shows that ganas were very important factors in the politics of his time.63 Similarly, the accomplishment of the Manu-Smrti was to formulate a view of society where human equality was non-existent and unthinkable.
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posted August 15, 2006 11:54 AM
Dalit Writers, Endogamy and Genetic Diseases I agree entirely that the epics have been a shastric and social tragedy for the nation, the single disasterous source that I can trace the curse that has befallen the people. What the Koran did for the muslims so did the Epics do for the Hindus.
What can we say about the writers, Vyasa and Valmiki, both dalits, who foistered this epic religion called Hinduism on us? The religion that is practiced today called Hinduism is a Dalit Religion. Is this their curse on us? Is this why Hindus till today subconsciously treat the dalits bad? Instead of listening to the counsel of our saints Hindus prefer to listen to these two dalit writers (forgive the unintended innuendo). Usually Hindus are quite contend in studying their shastras in isolation. We must study the impact of the Koran and the Epics on the respective cultures; one has successfully kept its believers in bondage in the medieval era, and the other entrenched itself in the fuedal era? We need to look into that. It seems to me that the only people who broke away from this feudalism were the Aryas, Brahmos, p-secs, athiests, communists as well as most of us educated in english missionary schools. I feel the epics have served their purpose in the feudal and agrarian age and we simply have to let it go. It is becoming indefensible. Young people just dont buy this stuff anymore. No one buys the song and dance routine. The more we keep it the more we lose the younger generation to 'apathy and indifference' as Ram Swarup said but in a slightly different context though. Like the ongoing clash of civilisations in west asia, in India there is a clash of the feudal era Hindus with the modern era Hindus. The 12th century stubbornly resisting the 21st century. Yes we have our own clash of eras. 60-70% of the Hindus, comprising dalits and OBCs do not accept the epics and never will. In our ignorance we cause pain to them each time we mention the epics. Anyone thought of it that way? As Hindu leaders if we choose to represent just the 30% dvija Hindus, then we must accept that we will lose the leadership of the rest of the 70% Hindus to the athiests, commies and p-secs, as it as been for the last fifty years. As well as close the door to foreigners becoming Hindus. This is calamitous and unacceptable. In my country everyone knows that Indians as a racial group have a very high rate of asthma, hypertension, diabetes, prone to strokes and heart attacks many times over and above the other communities and the national averages. The chinese on the other end are more prone to cancers. These are genetically inherited diseases. All those taking medications for blood pressure (me included) as well as diabetes daily for the rest of our lives, are the living dead. If not for modern medicine I would have been dead some years ago as would about a hundred million Indians. Most probably these are related to restrictions on the gene pool. Lots of studies on this. Varnashrama in reality means 'restricting the gene pool'. Endogamy is a doomsday clock counting down on the Hindu civilisation. The seeds of its destruction is already inlaid there in our genes. I guess that is one way to bring down the caste system. People do not realise that just 300-500 years of observing caste endogamy results in todays caste marriages being effectively consanguineous ones. In other words most of our parents are actually first cousins or such. Almost incest. We should tell them that. Most of us from the subcontinent, including me, are from such relationships. No wonder I have never had an instinctive attraction to Indian girls! Thats because they are all my sisters! I guess my genes told me 'dont'. Pathma
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posted October 19, 2006 02:18 PM
***** on treatment of Dalits in India.http://www.shivamvij.com/2006/10/i-am-a-dalit-how-are-you.html
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posted December 04, 2006 03:06 PM
The caste system, originally described in the Vedas, but much abused and maligned over the years, is nothing but a representation of an efficient human society. The four castes described in the scriptures are - the Brahmins, the Kshatriyas, the Vaishyas, and the Shudras. According to the Vedas, an efficient human society is based on the strength of its educational/knowledge-pursuit system (Brahmin), its military and defense system (Kshatriya), its economical and business system (Vaishya), and a strong, happy, productive workforce (Shudras). This noble representation was misinterpreted, exploited, and abused by a few in the Indian society, leading to the indiscriminate creation of thousands of castes and sub-castes, including the so-called "upper" castes. Fortunately, the caste system has been more or less abolished since Indian independence and the distinctions are beginning to disappear and there is a significant change atleast with the educated and young. http://dharma.indviews.com
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posted December 06, 2006 12:06 PM
Hi Hinduweb,Its good to hear that caste is disappearing from Hindu society. You may have missed many of the articles in this thread. There never was a varna _system_ in the vedas or in Indian society. There was always only a jaati system, and that was abused over time. And that many shastras, including the vedas, were padded later on with varna p***ages. Pathma
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posted December 15, 2006 11:16 PM
See a satirical 2 part play I posted in my blog on Sulekha ( http://karigar.sulekha.com) "CashtSishtum, Bhoil Da Bhoot Explains" at [ http://karigar.sulekha.com/blog/post/2006/10/casht-sishtum-bhoil-da-bhoot-explains-part-1.htm ]Today's young are getting taken in by Unenlightened & Un-empathetic "Western" explanation of "caste system". Comments welcome.
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posted July 11, 2007 02:28 PM
The Diversity of IndiaIn 1992, the Anthropological Society of India published the first of an ongoing series of monographs with the omnibus title,"The People of India." In this volume, the late K. S. Singh laid out the basic findings of this immense study of the Indian people. There are, he wrote, 4635 identifiable communities in India, "diverse in biological traits, dress, language, forms of worship, occupation, food habits, and kinship patterns. It is all these communities who in their essential ways of life express our national popular life." Strikingly, the scholars working under Singh's direction discovered the immense overlap across religious lines. They identified 775 traits that related to ecology, settlement, identity, food habits, marriage patterns, social customs, social organization, economy and occupation. What they found was that Hindus share 96.77 percent traits with Muslims, 91.19 percent with Buddhists, 88.99 percent with Sikhs, 77.46 percent with Jains (Muslims, in turn, share 91.18 percent with Buddhists and 89.95 percent with Sikhs). Because of this, Singh pointed out that Indian society was like a "honeycomb," where each community is in constant and meaningful interaction with every other community. The boundaries between communities are more a fact of self-definition than of cultural distinction. Unity was a fact of life, not a conceit of secular theory. The grand conclusion: The Hinduism that cares more for its reputation than for its relevance is no longer a living tradition. It has become something that one reveres from a distance. To keep it alive, Hinduism requires an engagement with its history (which shows us how it evolves and changes) and with its core concepts (what we otherwise call philosophy). "Every formula of every religion has, in this age of reason, to submit to the acid test of reason and universal justice if it is to ask for universal assent." Gandhi wrote in 1925. "Error can claim no exemption even if it can be supported by the scriptures of the world."
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