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2. The Imaging of Metaphysical Insights - Nammalvar 3. In LOVE I am in Service to Siva - 4. We can be Free of Karma - Punitavati 5. The Temple as a Media 6. The Technology of Liberation - Punitavati 7. The Art of the Invocation 8. Agamism - Pedadogy and Culture 9. Agamic and Vedic - P.T. Srinivasa Iyengar 10. Hindu and Non-Hindu 11. The Blessing of Transductive Perceptions - Vallalar 12. Worship and Determinism 13. The Confused Hindu 14. Makara Sankranti, Uttarayana & Pongal 15. Idiots of the World 16. In the Heart of Nothingness 17. Nakshatras in the Agamas 18. On Time & Dieties 19. Shivaratri and Maha Shivaratri 20. Indra in the Vedas 21. On Wealth, Sarasvati & Brihaspati 22. Tayumanavar on Chitambara Rahasyam 23. BEING Himself as the Guru - Vallalar 24. Siddhars & Siddhis 25. Time in religion and in life 26. Circumnambulation 27. Message of the Vedas 28. Some Vedic Quotes 29. Sivagnanabodham - Ramanathan Lambotharan 30. Some Verses from Tayumanavar 31. A Satchitananda Experience 32. The Death Experience 33. Poetic Cosmology: The Creation Hymn 34. Envisioning the Gods 35. Saivism is Free of Shastras 36. On Nataraja 37. Conventional Religions and the Real Religion 38. Predestination, Worship and Agamas 39. Ghosts in Hindu Religion the Preta Concept in Hinduism 40. The Tirukural on War, Defense and Foreign Affairs .
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Acting Without Eliciting Karma - Tayumanavar
This theory is briefly outlined in this fascinating verse. First he notes that there are two different ways in which he understands actions. The first is that because of metaphysical maturity seeing every action in fact as the action of BEING and thus taking no personal responsibility for them. The actions are seen as the Play of BEING and thus always good even if the outcomes are very painful. Such a view frees the soul also from guilt and such other psychological consequences that are quite normal but which can lead mental breakdowns if to the excess. Now the other view is that with the soul polluted by Siddha Maayai, the Malam pervading in the deepest part of the mental modules, the Siddham, there comes to prevail Ego along with ignorance of the Metaphysical realms. The soul becomes ego-self and with an inability to see the metaphysical realms and hence the Play of BEING, ends up attributing to itself the AGENCY of the actions done. Now Tayumanavar notes that when this way of thinking and understanding goes unchecked, there come to prevail more and more of the Malam in the mind destroying the normal mental functioning itself. The person can become insane and fail to be conscious of actions as such, his own and that of others. He loses self-consciousness and with that becomes abnormal with no control and regulation over his own actions. Now the question arises: How to avoid falling to this state of mental insanity and remain normal? The solution lies in seeking the blessings of BEING whereby the soul is prevented from becoming excessively egoistic and returns to the view that actions can be that of BEING and that once one suppresses or destroys ones own Ego, then all actions dome will be in fact that of BEING the universal praxis but now available in the behavior of an individual. Such actions will never elicit the evil karmic deposits at all but aruL and hence will not result in the destruction of the mind and self consciousness. All actions will become ToNdu, selfless service to mankind and such actions are in fact that of BEING when the soul becomes one with BEING. When one destroys the normal alienation that leads to seeing oneself as an Ego-self, intentionality as distinct from that BEING ceases to be there and with that the absence of eliciting Karmic consequences good or bad. 8. Meaning: Loga [This message has been edited by Webmaster (edited November 20, 2008).] IP: Logged |
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Namazvars Tiruvaymozi 2-5-2 The Imaging of Metaphysical Insights - Nammalvar
This is the cultural dynamics of Agamism that is very strongly embedded in the culture of the Tamils. In this verse of Namazvar we see a clear instance of this imaging process that sustains deep metaphysical insights. First it is noted that the BODY of BEING is vaan cudar and which is actually vaal cudar, brilliant and Pure Light. Now as is the case with almost all mystics throughout the world and right from ancient times, BEING who remains a total mystery with respect to form, shows Himself at the highest reaches of metaphysical excursions as such a light that also coms along with Deep Silence as the language of communication. But at some lower level comes the figural images like Tirumaal and so forth with head eyes arms legs and so forth. Here we note that the eyes hands (and the feet) are of the Red Lotus to indicate that the SEEING of BEING and the various ACTIONS, the Divine Praxis are out of Deep Love which is symbolized by this Red Lotus. The actions of BEING are not like that of human beings where there is an intention to gain something. BEING acts purely out of love expecting nothing at all in return except the happiness of the souls. Now Tiru, the Woman or Sakti is held in the chest to show that BEING holds the Power or Energy as an integral part of Himself. In Saivism this same notion is imaged as the Androgynous form where Sakti is understood as His equal and the left part of the body. Then come the generative and destructive processes, the central Divine Praxis that are the Panca Kritiyas when elaborated. Here they are attributed to Brahman who is said to issue from the Navel of Tirumaal, the location of the WOMB in the females. For the destructive there is no special part of the body BEING becomes Rudra to effect the destruction and elimination of all. Here it is noted that BEING, by virtue of the fact that He in the shape of Rudra destroys all, He himself remains indestructible and hence always there. We should note here that this metaphysical insights of Namazvar is the same as that in Saiva Siddhanta despite differences in the imaging .
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The Garland of Double Gems-16 In LOVE I am in Service to Siva One of the most endearing accomplishments of the Tamils during the historical period that covers about 2500 years at least is the understanding and articulation that BEING is LOVE and that the truly spiritually developed are not the pompous and power-greedy Brahmins and such other upper castes but rather the Adyar, those who are always in service to God. A truly religious person become attached to BEING wholly by LOVE and nothing else. This remarkable understanding of genuine religiosity that was elaborated in some magnificent verses by Tirumular, finds a very early expression in this beautiful verse of Punitavati. What in essence it says is that anyone, irrespective of difference in birth or sex, as long as he/she persists in doing actions that are good and noble, the ethically right, actions that gain the aruL of BEING, and thus always mindful of TRUTH, will eventually develop their senses so that they serve to disclose the metaphysical realms as well. Here we have the distinction between the ordinary senses transformed to becoming the Siva KaraNam from being the mere Pacu KaraNam. Under normal circumstances the senses remain those which process only the physical information. But as one develops spiritually the senses reveal also the metaphysical realms and the ways BEING as Siva PLAYS the many games to manage the world. The Third Eye gets opened up and with that what were merely physical events subject to the physical laws of cause and effect now become the various games Siva plays and all to illuminate the souls and take them in the direction of Moksa. What remained only inferential and conjectural now become directly seen and witnessed. Here emerges the spiritual pedagogy where BEING discloses Himself in various kinds of archetypal or iconic forms that develop not only Bakti but also metaphysical thinking of a profound kind that is called Icon Thinking. Such deep and profound metaphysical thinking finally lead to the vision of BEING as Pure Radiance and at which point all the figural icons are concealed from vision. This concealment is put here in terms of the metaphor of covering up the three main deities and hence all with the skin of the Black and huge beast, the elephant. Such an action by BEING also frees the soul from the narrow kind of Bakti, the kind that enjoys emotional attachment to Siva, VishNu and so forth. When such figural apprehension of BEING dissolves there emerges the highest kind of spiritual development - seeing BEING wholly as LOVE and becoming an Adyar, the One who is humble and who is always in service to God and no one else. This philosophy, the essence of Saiva Siddhanta is almost dead now having been killed by the VarNa promoting Brahmanism
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Saiva Siddhnata emphasizes the fact that we can, with the Grace of Siva, free ourselbes from Karma and attain Moksa and which is freeing from being thrown back into embodied existence. The following verse (c. 5th cent AD) is one of the earliest on this theme. Loga Icon Thinking of Punitavati- 81 We can be Free of Karma - Punitavati
All this is possible provided we let go all the egoistic self-defenses that we built around ourselves and all because of metaphysical Ignorance where out of confusions and bewilderments we deny the presence of BEING and with that DISALLOW the divine forces enter our depths and cleanse off all the karmic deposits there thats source of all thse miseries and so forth. The life Bakti is a POSITIVE life where fully confident of becoming FREE of all the karmas and so forth, the soul aspires towards the most excellent life, the heavenly while still on earth. It is NOT deterred by man built mental castles such as VarNasra Dharma that fixates what a person in entitled to in social and religious life to birth, or interpretations of Karma that see them as iron chains that bind one forever to their punitive influences. No --all these can be overcome provided we allow Rudra to enter our inner depths and allow Him to throw the fires of metaphysical illuminations, burn them off to ashes and with that makes us absolutely PURE.
Meaning: Comments: The theme outlined here and perhaps for the first time became the central notions of the whole of Bakti movement both the Saiva and VaishNava. For here we have the themes of conquering death, purifying self of karmic deposits that is the root cause of existential repetition as well as moral anguish that makes existence itself hellish. Here we have Depth Psychology merging with religion very smoothly for it is noted that it is only though submitting oneself without any ego defenses that one can earn the AruL of BEING-as-Rudra who would flood the soul with the Fire of Metaphysical Illuminations which alone would provide the medicine for all such ailments. The problems of life and which makes it infinitely painful, arise because the mental confusions and absence of clarities and all because of the Mummalam, the aaNavam Kanmam and Maayai and which are seen here metaphorically the Three Castles that imprison the mind and cause the human beings to suffer with moral anguish, mental depressions and even suicidal tendencies. Nothing will solve these problems except becoming PURE and attaining with that the Metaphysical Illuminations regarding TRUTHS. The anma must destroy the various self defenses it has built around itself and with Love must submit itself to BEING who would then burn off all the evil karmic deposits and so forth and with that enable the souls to enjoy a life full of joy. Loga IP: Logged |
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The Temple as a Media
32. e* zi-da-gal an-ne us-sa Here we have lines describing what is now called the Vimanam or gopuram, the Tower that meets ones eye even from a distance. This has a psychlogical function of lifting up the consciousness by FREEING the mind from the earthly concerns so that a person becomes FORGETFUL of the earthly concerns at least during those moments he wanders into the temple. Here the Temple serves as a MEDIA that transmutes thinking of a person and USHERS him into ANOTHER WORLD, the heavenly world, the world of the Gods. Not only that, the FINITE mind, preoccupied with narrow personal concerns is lifted up to see the VASTNESS of the universe and through that realise how feeble and miniscule he and his thinking is. The temple through the massive tower HUMILIATES and WOUNDS the human EGO by the disclosure of the VASTNESS of the UNIVERSE. This very ancient idea gets repeated in the following verses of Thirumular. 1712. People do not seem to know what is meant by Civalingkam. This vast manifest universe is actually Civalingkam. And all the sciences and arts that drive away ignorance is also Civalingkam. In fact this whole world serves as the Civalingkam i.e. the symbolic media that INFORMS of the presence of BEING. 1718. The Vimanam or Kopuram is the Gross presentation of BEING who as Cataciva remains as its Suukkumam, i.e, the Hidden reality, the concealed presence. The palipiidam, the spot for sacrifice is the Pattira lingkam, i.e that which is spread out for the individuals to SACRIFICE their ego. Understand by proper investigations that this is how the temple is structured as media for understanding Aran Nilai, i.e the Way of BEING. So we can see that the Temple is peculiar media which shapes and channels thinking in such a way that a person who allows his understanding to be formed by it is LED to understand BEING-IN-ITSELF and BEING-as-PHENOMENAL-PRESENCE i.e. BEING as Civa and Cataaciva. The Vimanam or TOWER is for attracting the worldly mind unto the metaphysical depths . The Tower is also ANdalingkam, the Symbolic presentation of this vast universe in its entirety. But this is only the first step, the first kind of mental reorientation it effects. And as the person enters the temple and moves around noting everything inside it including the arcanas the recitation of mantras and so forth, his eyes are OPENED towards the DEEP STRUCTURE that gives SENSE or Meaning for the whole temple as media. It INFORMS but what doe it inform or communicate? It communicates the PRESENCE of BEING , BEING-as- Phenomenal- Presence, BEING-as-THERE for his comprehension -- BEING as Cataciva. But this happens only when a person witnesses the Deity in the KaruvaRai, the dark chamber when the priest lights it up with camphor. But one should see standing near the spot for Sacrifice which is seen as the Pattira lingakam. The word "Pattiram" means leaves and hence something like a receiver on which we have to place i.e sacrifice something. What we have to sacrifice at this spot is our EGO, our self-conceited ARROGANCE and along with it our METAPHYSICAL IGNORANCE. Only when we sacrifice our EGO that narrows and delimits our horizon of thinking that we can WITNESS the Hidden or concealed presence of BEING. There are a lot more such notions even in Sumerian literature. Such fine analysis of the metaphysical siginificance underlying temple worship are also elsewhere in Thirumantiram as well as in numerous Siddha texts. The Pedagogic Functions The most important function of temples as media is that not only they FREE the mind from the earthly concerns but also PULL it into the DEPTHS and through that make a person SACRIFICE the elements that narrows his vision and hence his understanding. It is a media that transmutes the EXPERIENCE itself so that a person who undergoes it gets PURIFIED by a vision of the Depths. There is TEACHING but in a silent manner, using only GRAPHICS and SOUND so that the mind gets TUNED to its own hidden potentials, and of course to different degrees depending upon the cognitive maturity and sensitivity of the individuals. The PULLING into the Depths is simultaneously effecting personal growth, the person gets tranformed into a better person. And once a person becomes better certainly his THINKING will NOT be same as before, it will be on a HIGHER level. Now if the thiking becomes PURER and Higher so would be the behaviour. So we see the immense Sophistication with which Agamism DEVELOPS the mind and because of which it sees the scriptural texts only as adjuncts to such experiences. Loga . . . For Hindus shastras and books are 'fringe adjuncts only' as you concur too. It is for this reason most Hindu homes hardly have any veda or shastra except for little booklets containing bakti hymns. No need for books or shastra as all memorise hymns from young, each hymn equivalent to an entire veda. But all Hindu homes have a little shrine or altar, which is a miniature temple, and all Hindus are pujaris, as they conduct temple like pujas in their home shrines in various degrees of elaborations. This is Agamism. The temple and shastra is built into each other. The temple IS the shastra. The dharma-viewed perspective of Hinduism (or hindutva) is book centered, making it essentially 'an abrahamic-type of religion'. We need to get the Hindus away from the books to back to the temples. Regards. Pathma [This message has been edited by Webmaster (edited November 16, 2007).] IP: Logged |
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Icon Thinking of Punitavati- 87 The Technology of Liberation In the heat of many controversies, the common theme of all religions, that of liberation remains forgoten. This study of Punita is just another expression of this universal theme of all religions. There is an important distinction between seeking immortality and moksa, a difference that goes back to the Sumerian Gilgames and Jiusudra. While Jiusudra, the hero of the FLOOD, escaped death and rebirth and hence after the flood was given existence among the gods, Gilgames failed in this and was to led to immortality, a historical existence in perpetuity by virtue of magnificent achievements. While Jiusudra become wholly celestial in the end, Gilgames remained two-thirds divine and one-third human. The human part never left him and he could not shake it off. This verse below may answer this riddle in metaphysics, the difference between Immortality and Moksa. Seeking freedom from DEATH is immortality but seeking liberation from the very of death and rebirth is Moksa and this is what Punitavati describes as possible for ALL irrespective whatever difference. For what it requires is the transmutation of SEXUALITY itself into LOVE and LOVE unto BEING. It is only worship and prayers with unconditional LOVE unto BEING and seeking NJANAM as that what one desires that will grant us this Moksa and as a blessing of BEING. It is this absolute illumination that destroys the inner darkness totally and immediately and which will also cleanse the soul of the eRivinai, the Karma scripts that throw the anma back into the historical world. Anyone can aspire for this and all who raise themselves to this state of metaphysical existence stand to be blessed by BEING. 87. Meaning: Comments: Only those who have transmuted the sexual libido into Universal Love. Only such individuals will garland the BEING with fresh blossoms as indicative of LOVE unto Him and a wish to tie self with BEING and not the wolrd. Since anyone can raise himself or herself to this state, there is no barrier whatsoever for enjoying Moksa. Loga. IP: Logged |
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The Art of the Invocation
The purpose of revisiting the agamas is to 'bring it to the fore' in the Hindu's consciousness of his shastras, evoke his interest to the centrality of his religion, the temple and mystic worship practices, and away from puranic myths and fantastic stories which are peripheral to the religion, and away from the superceded vedas and upanishads which is 'redundant' and is a cause of confusion. For the entirety of Hinduism (saivism) may be recreated today just on the basis of the Ajita only and nothing more, with the philosophy built into the rites and rituals and not as a speculative introspection. The objective is a mental reordering and refocussing on vitals - the 'baktiful' worship, the core of the religion, where there is only the worshipper and the worshipped, in supernatural communion, and no shastra nor jaati. Each of the major branches of Hinduism; Saivism, Vaishnavism and Shaktism, each with its own set of agamas, are not a separate component of a tripartite religion. Each is a full and complete system, one of three forms of a total religion. It compares very much to a family of languages, the family having a seemingly endless variations of languages and dialects, and each language has its own structure. Yet all fulfill its most basic objective of communication. Saivism is a religion of a one God, the supreme Siva. Numerous entities are around Him. They are his creations and consequently his subjects with definate functions. They are *not* other deities, as the nature of the eternal Isvara or 'Supreme Lord' cannot be shared. They participate of his own essence at different degrees. The major ones are told to be engendered by him, or to be an outward manifestation of himself. The other entities or deities are an existence separated from the essence but without altering the unity of the essence. Whatever cause there may be for the coming of an entity to a separate existence, and whatever form it may take, the reason given for these hypostases of the supreme god is the necessity of communication through worship, for the supreme unmanifest god is inaccessible to the senses and the mind. That would render worship impossible. Therefore the supreme god makes himself accessible through these substate entities. The presence of a deity is a prerequisite for worship. This is established at the time of installation by elaborate rites, and reestablished at other times through various rites. The performance of a dance, play or drama is known for its effect of communion with an audience and the resultant aesthetic experience of pleasure. The performance of temple pujas and rituals involves similar human efforts and ends in creating a sublimated form of communion with God, an unburdening of concerns, and an experience of mystic contentment and happiness. "Worship' derived from the words puja pujayam and archa pujayam means 'to honour'. In temples there is always a main unique Deity in the mulastanam, the target of a long elaborate sequence of rites and rituals, culminating in the presenting of the final showing of flames or aarathi. Part of the rituals includes the worship of an entourage of divine and semi-divine deities, placed concentrically surrounding the main deity. Icon, Water & Fire Worship "The desired coming and going of Siva occur through a body of mantras, like the coming and going of a soul through bodies" (Kamika Agama 1.4.356). In the installed linga the deity is invited and installed permanently in a ceremony called pratistha, done to create, 'placing' (nyaasa) and let stay, and the latent presence to be reawakened or re-enlivened each day. 'Looking at a spot', niriksana, ritually transfers the consciousness of the deity in the worshipper's mind to the spot or icon looked upon. The mental creation of the mantra body of the god is 'placed' on the spot or icon. This is the essence of Hindu worship. By concentrating on the deity within our minds, as the soul of our soul, then looking at an icon ritually makes the inert icon 'alive'. Worship can then begin. In the case of movable icons and water pots (kumbha), the rite is for creating and suspending the presence, the contents of the pots being the object of elaborate worship, which is later transferred to the main installed deity by ablution of the 'charged waters' on it, executed with great pomp as the highlight of the ceremony, thereby transferring the divine presence to the linga. In the case of the fire-homa, the effects of the ritual is first transferred to the water pots by touching the pots with a darbha grass, from there later transferred again to the linga by ablutions. Worship for Oneself and Worship for Others 20.4b-7 Notes: Three Types of Worship Notes: Worship of the Entourage Deities 20.215-225 1. First Circle of Entourage Dieties: Anantesa, Suksma, Sivottama, Ekanetra, Ekarudra, Trimurti, Srikantha, and Sikhandin. Rite of Entering the Siva temple Notes: The Worship of Siva in the Linga and in the Fire 21.2-3 Notes: Dikshas for All 1. The 'seed' is the dependence on execution of rules, etc, which are the means to realise the fruits produced by diksha. Diksha with seed requires much observances, and is meant for priests. 2. The diksha without seed, without much rules or observances is for the masses, and for all. No one is excluded, not even the addict, the prostitute nor the autistic, and liberation is assured while still living (jivanmukta), or on death (mukti on death), depending on the type of diksha and the empowerment of the gurukkal. The various diksha mentioned in other agamas are the samaya and vishesha for householders, the nirvana, abisheka and archaryabisheka for the priests and assistants as well as monks. In the archaryabisheka diksha, the archaka receives an ablution with the water from five kumbhas (pots) in which have been 'placed' the five mantras of the five faces of Siva, so that the archaka is identifiable with Siva. This is followed by the gifting of the main instruments of the priestly function and regal insignia, referring to the authority bestowed upon him to be an invoker of the gods, on behalf of, and for the benefit of the people. Agamic Mantras A bija mantra is used in all agamic rituals. Each deity has a bija and it is only used for that deity. The bija consonant for Siva is H, and each of his different hypostases are distinguished by the vowels that follows next; a e i o u, for the five faces of Siva, indicating that each of the forms of the deity emanates from the root Siva without being different from him. There is no mantra H itself as it makes no sense, as the unmanifest Siva cannot be represented by any icon or mantra. Namasivaya refers to the sat-asat formless form sadasiva. All the mantras used in the Ajita are agamic mantras. There are no vedic mantras used at all. The Ajita is completely free of vedic mantras. Here are some mantras chanted for atonement of faults, purification, concentration, etc. These mantras are footnoted as it is assumed that the desika is already familiar with it, an indication that there was a parallel running oral tradition of the agamas too. 20.56-68, 87.98-101 Cooking the Naivedyam (or havis) and bali 22.124.128 Notes: Priests & Patrons General Info The Ajita agama does use varna terms like brahmin, kshatriya, vaishya and sudra. But the translators N.R. Bhatt, Jean Filliozat and Pierre S. Filliozat suspect most of those are later additions as most of these varna terms are found in the last few verses of the chapters concerned and not in sync with the main thrust of the Ajita. Nevertheless the translators did not exclude those verses but left it as it is and noted their concerns in the introduction and in footnotes. A case for a varna society must show: I clearly see the first. I do not see the next four. I have to conclude, as we all must, that there was no varna society, only a jaati society, which itself is quite degrading. Regards. Pathma IP: Logged |
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Agamism 13: Pedadogy and Culture
uRRuzi utaviyum uRuporuL koduttum It is good to learn without worrying about the future benefits, helping out the teachers and giving them whatever is necessary. Even the mother prefers among her own siblings he who excels in learning. Even in the community members it is not age that matters but rather the quality of understanding that gains leadership. And even among the main social divisions of people , if a person from the lower echelons manages to LEARN and acquit himself, it is he who makes others follow him. Pedagogy Everywhere This brief account shows that the Sumerians did not neglect any section of the community including the children, from benefiting from education, something we learn also from numerous other texts. What is however of absorbing interest is that religious life was NOT divorced from learning and that the Temples Palaces and all other important social institutions catered for the learning of the people and fostered pedagogy at all levels and with an UNDERSTANDING of its importance. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/akandabaratam/message/31113 [This message has been edited by Webmaster (edited December 05, 2007).] IP: Logged |
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Agamic and Vedic History of the Tamils from the earliest times to 600 A.D. P.T. Srinivasa Iyengar Chapter 8 Nearly thirty years ago, I pointed out in my Outlines of Indian philosophy that the religion that is practised today by the Hindus is almost entirely based on the Agamas and has little or nothing to do with the Vedas. The vaidika cult began to decay after the war of the Mahabharata and has today almost died out. The greater part of the Srauta karma is entirely gone; only a few elementary rites such as Agni adhana, a much simplified Vajapeya, Garuda cayana and Somayaga are sporadically performed by a handful of people. The Smartha karma is also fast dying out, so that judged by the rule that the family of a brahmana whose members have neglected to tend the holy fire for three generations loses its brahmana status, extremely few families can be regarded as true brahmana ones. ..the Agama is technically the name and the Vedas was well understood in ancient days, when the Agamika cults were the rivals of the Vaidika cults; but as the two have now become amalgamated for several centuries, the distinction between them is not realised by the moderns, all the more so as the theory is now prevalent that the Agamas are ultimately derived from the Vedas and do but contain amplifications of the vedic teachings or rather adaptations of them to suit the modern age. The Agamika methods of worship being entirely fire-less and not being accompanied by the recitation of Vedic mantras must have been developed from the Dasyu rites. The Dasyu rites certainly prevailed throughout India, in the south and in the north, before the rise of Vedic rites. Now with regard to the rites. the Vaidika rites are fire rites. For each rite a fire has to be lighted and intensified into a flame and on the flame the oblations have to be poured. The Agamika rites are fire-less; the oblations have to be merely exhibited to the object of worship (icon) and then taken away. In the former the oblations is consumed by the gods, because it is thrown into the fire; in the latter the worshipper loses nothing of his offerings because the god can take up only the subtle and unseen parts, so the worshipper consumes it himself and distributes it to his relations and friends. But the main part of of the Agamika rites consist in the repitition of the numerous names of the gods worshipped with the phrase 'namah' (I bow) added. the essence of the Vaidika rites is the pouring of oblations, but that of the Agamika is upacara, washing, decking and feeding the god, in fact showing him all the attentions due to a human guest or human king. Hence in the Vaidika rite no physical representation or representative of the deity worshipped was necessary, visible fire representing all the gods; in the Agamika rites the only deity worshipped had to be represented by some visible emblem being a fetish, a tool, such as a sword or club, a living or dead tree, a stone, a running stream, a linga, a salagrama or above all, a picture, or a statue of the deity in brick and mortar, a stone or metal, made in the shape assigned to him by his worshippers. The culmination ..of the Vaidika..is Jnana.. 'it is by knowing him that (one) becomes immortal here, there is no other path for going (to him)'. The culmination of the Agama way is Bakti. The worship of the gods is but a copy of the methods of the worship of men - chiefly gurus and kings. [This message has been edited by Webmaster (edited December 08, 2007).] IP: Logged |
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"Islam preaches co-existence of believers of all faith. Just as Hinduism peaches that all human beings are created equal, and Christianity preaches that all souls are welcome in Heavan." "That's why the ardent upholders of all these faiths treat one another so Hindu and Non-Hindu Every religion has its glories and blemishes. It is important to realize that in one important respect Hinduism stands tall After millennia of prophets and preachers, sects and soul-saviors, acharyas and Thanks to the historical evolution of the religion, Hinduism has escaped the And yet, because in our own times Hindu culture and religion are threatened in a It is therefore extremely important for Hindus who fully appreciate what is V. V. Raman IP: Logged |
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The Blessing of Transductive Perceptions - Vallalar
In this verse VaLLalaar reveals that he was blessed as well by these metaphysical visions in which he was taught great truths. First he notes that in these visions he sees BEING assuming various iconic forms- the Devas Asuras and so forth where He also wears a wide variety of ornaments(and weapons?) each disclosing a truth of its own. The gods and goddesses wearing different guises constitute a kind pf Dream Language cracking the codes of which one enjoys profound metaphysical truths to be had no where else and by no other means. This is the Dance of Siva Sakti, the creation of countless number of divine forms using the Natam and Bindu and configuring various dramas by way of explaining how exactly certain events in life are fabricated. VaLLalaar observes that BEING is already in a corner of his soul and He dances along with Uma the various dances that are seen by him as metaphysical dreams. Amazed he really marvels at the immense kindness of BEING in favoring him thus forgetting all the evils he has done and continues to do. He sheds tears of immense joy thinking of this kindness of BEING in blessing him with such visions. He also notes that because of this he also loses his freedom and become virtually a slave of Siva-Sakti, the Father-Mother. He losses his freedom, a will of his own for all his actions become conditioned by the visions BEING configures his actions by regulating his visions. But this is something to be rejoiced for in living as such one AVOIDS doing the erroneous and the evil as BEING will never prompt the evil but only the good and noble.
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Worship and Determinism Pongal/Makar Sankranti is a season based festival, marking the end of Its simple really. There is NO makara rasi (capricorn) in the vedas or Most people in the west are no longer christian, yet they celebrate the Now I understand Hindus in the west coast of america are beginning to celebrate Strictly speaking it is the agamas and the vedas that are the ONLY shastras for Everyone please keep in mind that we have no concepts of predestination or fate. Everyone keep in mind that we worship the Gods, and not the planets, meteors, That the astrologers came to link the planets to Hindu gods is a devastating This is what we need to delink now; delink the Gods from the planets, delink Appeals to the Gods for their benign intervention is the basis of worship, for Where there is worship, that makes it a religion and not just a dharma. It has Christians and muslims pray, whereas Hindus worship. Its not the same thing. The Gods respond to the worship, not by providing wealth, spouse, etc., as The gist is the Instead of working for shastric reform directly, which we all know is not going Like the stag caught on headlights beam, the glare is blinding! It always has Regards. Pathma . Here is my latest exchange with Koenraad Elst. > In this calendar debate, we have the same distinction. KE
Non Hindus, meaning astrologers, need not concern themselves beyond this point! Those who wish to believe in astrology, horoscopes, compatibility, etc., along
By jyotisha I meant predictive astrology, not the astronomy of Lagadha's. One can find anything in the vedas if one is 'looking for it'. If one looks for
I am a long time practitioner and I am able to testify as to its validity. But I
The rituals is 'to communicate with the gods', a protocol, an established The gods cannot act for individuals and their prayers, unless summoned! In the temples they do intervene for the benefit of the devotees, for mere entry Again it cannot be proved. Self validation comes with practice.
. You can verify this with any other established meditator of any tradition! Ask
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The Confused Hindu
Sure many Hindus are well read, can quote from the vedas and upanisheds, have read many post modern works, can quote big names like Dawkins, Kripal, etc. and expouse deep concepts, BUT they do not know Hinduism! In the ten years I've been surfing the web, I know most know nothing about the gods. They have read but they do not know. Believe it or not most of them are not practitioners; readers and scholars yes, but not practitioners. For, they do not talk the language of a believing worshipful practitioner, but they talk the language of a scholar. So its two people talking a different language to each other. Being mostly western english educated in mostly missionary schools they have been led by the nose to find knowledge, understanding and 'salvation' in books and western conceptualisations, and not in the traditional worships and religious practices. They do not understand that a vastly much more intuitive knowledge comes from actual worship. Ten times more! A hundred times more than what one could possibly have read in a lifetime. The library within, the repository of knowledge and understanding, is the biggest in the world! The purpose of worship is to unfold the knowledge from within. Secondly, generally most Indians are currently in the hot pursuit of wealth and affluency and this overrides other 'stabilising factors', like beliefs, rationality and common sense, reducing any religious practice to mere perfunctory rituals, and obsession with clutching at straws. If there is fatalism and astrology in the vedas, then I'm sure our vedic rishis would have written down in the upanishads their prophecies for each of the years; prophecies for 2007, prophecies for 2008, 2009, etc., and that would be nadi leaves for all 6 billion people and more to come. It does not strike the Hindus that there is not a single prophecy in the vedas nor the agamas. It does not strike them that whatever the seasons are for them in the northern hemispehere, its the opposite in the southern hemisphere! The prayers to the elements and plants in the vedas is a recognition and celebration of our interconnectedness to the universe, our universality, and our wholesome well-wishing and the togetherness of mankind and the world! If there is no fatalism there is no astrology. If there is worship there is no fatalism! We have only the concept of karma, and that too just to explain the environment and situation we are in. No more that that. There is no fatalism. We have no control in the short term over the immediate environment that we are facing. We have to accept that, the environment we are in and the conditions we are facing. But we have free will to guide our lives, within the parameters of that environment. But over the medium term even the environment too changes, and new avenues open and old doors close. A tectonic shift is taking place in India, where 60 million are lifted out of poverty and where 100 million enter the middle class each year! Thats an karmic environmental change for 160 million people, and people are exercising their free will to further their lives. A dragon has been karmically unleashed. Nothing to do with the stars or astrology. Everything to do with collective karma from its distant past that kept it bonded all this while. Now people have to let go of fatalism to be further unleashed. Below is a pondering of why astrology is intriguing. It is not intriguing. It is just clutching at straws! Bonded people do that. Simple. "That astrology lives still in the popular imagination, in both West and East (albeit in very different forms), leaves us with the task of trying to understand why this is so. At that point, we can rightly say whether we agree with the premises of astrology or not -- as Beck does in this book -- and seek to debunk the system if we so wish. But even a modern social scientist must find it intriguing that in this post-Enlightenment period, people still find room in their heads for a system as fatalistic as astrology." http://www.classics.und.ac.za/reviews/07-45bec.htm
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Webmaster's note: Pongal or Makar Sankranti is now ascertained to be on 22nd December and NOT 14th January. Makara Sankranti, Uttarayana & Pongal (Jan 14-15, 2008) The day on which the sun begins to move northwards (uttarayana) is called 'Makar Shankranti' (Sanskrit: Shankramana = to begin to move). Among the Tamils in southern India this festival is called the Pongal. To many people, Makar Shankranti ushers in the New Year. Newly-harvested grains are cooked for the first time on that day. Joyous festivities mark the celebration in every home. The poor are fed and clothed. On the next day, the cow is worshipped, and birds and animals are fed. In Gujarat in western India, the occasion is called Uttarayan, which is famous for its kite flying festival. Seventy per cent of India's population lives in villages, and a vast majority of people solely depend on agriculture. As a result, we find that most Hindu festivals are directly or indirectly linked to agriculture and related activities. What's Pongal??'Pongal' comes from the word 'ponga' which literally means 'boil' and so 'pongal' connotes 'spillover' or that which is 'overflowing'. It's also the name of the special sweet dish cooked on the Pongal day. Pongal continues through the first four days of the 'Thai' month that starts on January 14 every year. Seasonal Festivity?Pongal is directly associated with the annual cycle of seasons. It not only marks the reaping of the harvest, but also the withdrawal of the southeast monsoons in southern India. As the cycle of season rings out the old and ushers in the new, so is the advent of Pongal connected with cleaning up the old, burning down rubbish, and welcoming in new crops. Cultural & Regional Variations?Pongal in the state of Tamil Nadu is celebrated during the same time as 'Bhogali Bihu' in the North Eastern State of Assam, 'Lohri' in Punjab, 'Bhogi' in Andhra Pradesh and 'Makar Sankranti' in the rest of the country, including Karnataka, Maharashtra, Uttar Pradesh, Bihar and Bengal. Pongal follows the winter solstice and marks the favorable course of the sun. On the first day, the sun is worshipped, signifying its movement from Cancer to Capricorn. This is also why, in other parts of India, this harvest festival and thanksgiving is called 'Makar Sankranti'. [Sanskrit Makar = Capricorn] Each day of the four-day festival has its own name and distinct fashion of celebration. Day 1: Bhogi Pongal?Bhogi Pongal is a day for the family, for domestic activities and of being together with the members of the household. This day is celebrated in honor of Lord Indra, "the Ruler of Clouds and Giver of Rains". On the first day of Pongal a huge bonfire is lit at dawn in front of the house and all old and useless items are set ablaze, symbolic of beginning a fresh new year. The bonfire burns through the night as young people beat little drums and dance around it. Homes are cleaned and decorated with "Kolam" - floor designs drawn in the white paste of newly harvested rice with outlines of red mud. Often pumpkin flowers are set into cow-dung balls and placed among the patterns. Fresh harvest of rice, turmeric and sugarcane is brought in from the field as preparation for the following day. Day 2: Surya Pongal?The second day is dedicated to Lord Surya, the Sun God, who is offered boiled milk and jaggery. A plank is placed on the ground, a large image of the Sun God is sketched on it and Kolam designs are drawn around it. This icon of the Sun God is worshipped for divine benediction as the new month of 'Thai' begins. Day 3: Mattu Pongal?This third day is meant for the cattle ('mattu') - the giver of milk and puller of the plough. The farmer's 'dumb friends' are given a good bath, their horns are polished, painted and covered with metal caps, and garlands are put around their necks. The pongal that has been offered to the gods is then given to the cattle to eat. They are then taken out to the racing tracks for cattle race and bullfight - an event full of festivity, fun, frolic and revelry. Day 4: Kanya Pongal ?The fourth and final day marks the Kanya Pongal, when birds are worshipped. Girls prepare colored balls of cooked rice and keep them in the open for birds and fowls to eat. On this day sisters also pray for their brothers' happiness. Like all Hindu festivals, Pongal too has some interesting legends attached to it. But surprisingly, this festival has little or no mention in the Puranas, which are usually bristled with tales and legends related with festivals. This is perhaps because Pongal is preeminently a Dravidian harvest festival and has somehow managed to keep itself away from the preponderance of Indo-Aryan influences. The Mt. Govardhan Tale?The most popular Pongal legend is the one associated with the first day of the celebrations when Lord Indra is worshipped. The story behind it is, on this day Indra being honored by all, became proud and arrogant. To teach him a lesson, Lord Krishna asked his cowherd friends to worship Mount Govardhan instead of Indra on the Bhogi Pongal day. Awfully infuriated, Indra sent forth the clouds to generate thunder, lightning and heavy rains and flood the land. But, as the tale goes, Lord Krishna lifted up the Govardhan Mountain on his little finger and sheltered the farmers, cowherd and their cattle. Indra then begged Shri Krishna's forgiveness and the latter re-permitted Bhogi celebrations in honor of Indra. The Nandi Bull Story?According to another legend associated with Mattu Pongal, the third day of celebrations, Lord Shiva once asked his Nandi bull to go to earth and deliver a special message to his disciples: "Have an oil bath everyday, and food once a month." But the baffled bovine failed to deliver the correct message. He told the people that Shiva asked them to "have an oil bath once a month, and food everyday." The enraged Shiva then ordered Nandi to stay back on earth and help the people plough the fields, since they would now need to grow more grains. IP: Logged |
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Idiots of the World
If one is searching for god anywhere outside oneself, in the mosques, churches, in the book, in saints, in gospels, in piety, in mind constructs, in prophecies, in saviours, then one is lost in the dungeons of hell. Because anywhere outside one's self, outside the kingdom of god, IS hell! The kingdom of god is within all of us at this very moment. No need to go here and there to find it. This makes any convert the utterest stupid person, an openly self-declaring idiot, who hadn't a clue! Idiots of the world, go within! Pathma [This message has been edited by Pathmarajah (edited January 20, 2008).] IP: Logged |
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In the Heart of Nothingness
Vast, divine, of unthinkable form, subtler than the subtle, it shines forth.- Mundaka Upanishad
Physics has revealed that there can be no matter such as we experience The wonder is that it implies that these countless multitudes are being One may draw an analogy with the conscious mind and the subconscious. This is the picture that emerges from what is called quantum field theory Thinkers in ancient world also reflected on emptiness. In Buddhist V. V. Raman IP: Logged |
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Nakshatras in the Agamas
Ajita Agama The Process of the Great Festival (utsava) - the stars and lunar days fit for the immersion in sacred waters 27.1-2 27.8-11 27.12 27.14-15 27.15-16 The Process of the Sraddha festival 69.5-7 69.9 Regards. Pathma IP: Logged |
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On Time & Dieties
Kaala has been treated as a God and named Yama. He is credited with upholding Dharma strictly and is therefore called Dharmaraaja. The Hindu God Shiva is said to be Kaala of Kaala. So he becomes Kaalakaala. A destroyer of time. Time also plays a part on the concept of Mahavishnu. Vishnu means all pervading but lies on a bed of time. This bed is conceived as a coiled snake called 'anatha' meaning without end (bothways). He is also called aadi-shesha meaning that he was in the beginning and he will be in the end also. Otherwise with no beginning and no end. PKR . Kaali, the female counter part of Kaala is also symbolic of "Time", as energy. I think this is what the ancient Hindus were trying to convey. How they came The opening lines of the famed Ananda Lahari by Adi Sankara, points to this "Shiva shaktya yukto yadi bhavathi shakta prebhavitum, Shiva, is able to do creation in this world along with Shakti; without Her Ram Varmha IP: Logged |
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Shivaratri < What is the difference between Shivaratri and Maha Shivaratri?. > Mahashivaratri is celebrated once a year whereas Shivaratri can be celebrated on every Chaturdashi of Krishna-paksha.ďż˝ Thus there can be 11 (or even 12 if there is an adhika-masa) Shivaratris but just one Mahashivaratri, besides those 11/12 Shivaratris.ďż˝ The l1/12 Shivaratris are known as masa-shivaratris also. As per all the Vedas and Puranas, including the Shiva Mahapurana and Linga Purana etc., the day of Uttarayana i.e. Winter Solstice is known as the start of solar Magha. As such, it started on December 22, 2007.ďż˝ The first New Moon (Shukkla-pratipat) after that is known as the start of lunar Magha Shukla Paksha.ďż˝ Thus it started on January 9, 2008.ďż˝ The first Full Moon (Krishna Pratipat) after that is known as the start of Magha Krishna Paksha (Phalguna Krishna paksha for Northern India like J&K, Bihar, UP etc.).ďż˝ Thus that Magha/Phalguna Krishna paksha started on January 23, 2008. And Krishna Paksha Chaturdashi of that Magha/Phalguna was prevailing at midnight on February 5/6, 2008 (IST).ďż˝ That means that Mahashivaratri was to be celebrated on February 5/6, 2008 midnight.ďż˝ [Maha-Shivaratri, as per the Linga Purana, Shiva Purana, Mahashivaratri is a festival specially dear to Bhagwan Shiva!ďż˝ A fast on that day till the time of Shivapuja at "Nisheetha" plus Shiva-puja on that day/night is said to remove the sins of hundreds of "janmas"ďż˝ (births), if that puja is performed with devotion and "shradha' i.e. faith.ďż˝ Fasting does not necessarily mean that you have to avoid everything completely if you cannot do so, though that is preferable, but you can take some fruits or milk etc. in a limited quantity!ďż˝ The main emphasis is abstaining from carnal desires and concentrating on nothing but Shiva on that date! [This message has been edited by Webmaster (edited February 09, 2008).] [This message has been edited by Webmaster (edited February 23, 2009).] IP: Logged |
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Indra in the Vedas
Indra is referred to as the Guide, the Indestructable, Lord of Heaven and Earth, armed with the Thunderbolt, the Invisible, the Wealth Giver. Praising him as the leader of the maruts who can defeat any enemies whom he chooses. He defeated the the riteless, the godless, but wealthy Dasyu singlehandedly, who fled from heaven upon defeat. There is no indication who Dasyu is. It may be a minor asuric god like Surapadman or Ravana, in a retelling in a puranic style, of Indra slaying Vrtya the Dasyu and his followers the Sanakyas. Followers are sometimes referred to as dasas, which means attendants or servants. Otherwise it is beseeching for wealth (cattle) and rain. Indra is offered stone pressed (probably oil seeds extract) juices which is offered in a fire to Indra, who in return blesses the worshipper with wisdom, which in turn causes the flow of Soma (the treasure) in the worshipper. This Soma is the light of wisdom which increases the lordly power of the worshipper. In days of yore, cattle was the currency, akin to our BMWs and Ferraris today. It got you the girls and it got you the sons in laws. The offering is stone pressed, like in a stone grinder, or 'ammi-kal' the same technology we use today. The extract which is some kind of oil is offered on a ladle into the fire. This offering is also called 'soma'. Soma is offered to the gods, and in return the gods offer their soma to the worshipper. This soma benediction is the light of the gods that spreads and diffuses through the mind and soul. It is seen as a golden light. 1.033.01 Come, let us get to Indra, (to recover our stolen cattle), for he, devoid of malice, exhilarates our minds; thereupon he will bestow upon us perfect knowledge of this wealth, (which consists) of cattle. 1.033.03 ..the lord drives the cattle (to the dwelling) of whom he pleases. - Indra provides wealth to whom he pleases. 1.033.04 Verily, Indra, you have slain the wealthy barbarian (Vrtya) with your bold; your, single handedly assailing (him), although the auxiliaries (the Maruts) are at hand. Perceiving the impending manifold destructiveness of your bow, they, the Sanakas, the neglecters of sacrifice, perished. 1.033.11 The waters flowed to provide the food of Indra, but (Vr.tra) increased in the midst of the navigable (rivers); then Indra, with his fatal and powerful shaft, slew Vr.tra, whose thought were ever turned towards him. Vrtya withheld the waters, so Indra slayed him and the earth was bountiful. 1.054.01 ...Indra....you have made the waters of the rivers roar; how (is it possible) that the earth should be filled with terror? Indra causes rain and the rivers flow and roar, so how can there be terror in the lands? Where there is a drought, famine and terror grips the land. He hurls the thunderbolt and hastens the rains. 1.54.03 ...who is the sender of showers, and by his bounty gratifies our desires...the giver of rain, the repeller of enemies,... Drought was a major 'enemy', 1.54.07 ...for him (the worshipper) the bounteous Indra causes the clouds to rain from heaven. He sends the rains and hence gratifies man's desires. 1.54.11 ..preserve us in affluence; cherish those who are wise; and supply us with wealth from which proceed excellent progeny and food. 1.033.05 The neglecters of sacrifice, contending with the sacrificers, Indra, fled with averted faces. Indra, fierce, unyielding, lord of steeds, (they appeared) when you did blow the disregarders of religion from off the heaven, and earth and sky. 1.033.07 .....you (Indra) have consumed the robber (Dasyu), (having dragged him) from heaven, and have received the praises of the worshipper, praising you and offering libations. Seems like Dasyu and his followers the Sanakyas who were non sacrifiers, were repelled from heaven. 1.033.08 Decorated with gold and jewels, they were spreading over the circuit of the earth; but mighty as they were, they triumphed not over Indra; he dispersed them with the (rising) sun. Chased from heaven these Dasyus took residence and enveloped the Earth but Indra dispersed them like the rising sun dispelled the darkness. 1.033.09 Indra, as you enjoy both heaven and earth, investing the universe with your magnitude, you have blown away the robber (dasyu) with the prayers which are repeated on behalf of those who do not comprehend them. Because of the prayers through sacrifices on behalf of the yajamaan (patron who conducts the homa fire ritual but who may not understand the rituals) Indra defeats the Dasyus. The sacrifice achieves its goal. 1.033.10 When the waters descended not upon the ends of the earth, and overspread not that giver of affluence with its productions, then Indra, the showerer, grasped his bolt, and with its brightness milked out the waters from the darkness. Rain gives affluence along with its manifold productions. When there is no rain (held back by Vrtya), Indra makes it happen with his lightning and thunder which bursts the dark clouds. 1.033.12 Indra set free (the waters) obstructed by (Vr.tra), when sleeping in the caves of the earth, and slew the horned dryer up (of the world). 1.033.13 The weapon of Indra fell upon his adversaries; with his sharp and excellent (shaft) he destroyed their cities; he then reached Vr.tra with his thunderbolt, and (by) slaying him, exhilarated his mind. 1.054.02 Offer adoration to the wise and powerful S'akra; glorifying the listening Indra, praise him who purifies both heaven and earth by his irresistible might, who is the sender of showers (rain), and by his bounty gratifies our desires. 1.054.03 Offer exhilarating praises to the great and illustrious Indra, of whom, undaunted, the steady mind is concentrated in its own firmness; for he, who is of great renown, the giver of rain, the repeller of enemies, who is obeyed his steeds, the showerer (of bounties), is hastening hither. 1.054.04 You have shaken the summit of the spacious heaven; you have slain S'ambara by your resolute self; you have hurled with exulting and determined mind the sharp and bright-rayed thunderbolt against assembled Asuras. These Dasyu, Sambara and their hosts are asuras. 1.054.07 That eminent person (the yajamaan), the cherisher of the pious, (the institutor of the ceremony), promotes his own prosperity, who, while offering oblations to Indra, pronounces his praise; or who, along with the offerings he presents, recites hymns (in honour of him); for him the bounteous Indra causes the clouds to rain from heaven. 1.054.08 Unequalled is his might; unequalled is his wisdom; may these drinkers of the Soma (the yajamaan who initiates the homa sacrifice) become equal to him the pious act, for they, Indra, who present to you oblations, augment your vast strength and your manly vigour. It is prayed that the sacrificer becomes equal to Indra upon drinking the soma. By the sacrifice the yajamaan drinks the soma, which means the blessings and wisdom that is produced by the sacrifice. This is the riches and bounty requested for by the patron. 1.054.09 These copious Soma juices, expressed with stones and contained in ladles, are prepared for you; they are the beverage of Indra; quaff them; satiate your appetite with them; and then fix your mind on the wealth that is to be given (to us). The offering of oil seed extracts into the homa fire is also called Soma. This earthly 'soma' is for Indra, in return the heavenly Soma is benedicted to the worshipper. 1.054.10 The darkness obstructed the current of the waters; the cloud was within the belly of Vr.tra; but Indra precipitated all the waters which the obstructor had concealed, in succession, down to the hollows (of the earth). It looks like Vrtya is the lord of the rain clouds. 1.054.11 Bestow upon us, Indra, increasing reputation; (bestow upon us) great, augmenting, and foe subduing strength; preserve us in affluence; cherish those who are wise; and supply us with wealth from which proceed excellent progeny and food. I don't see any references to races, dravidians, aryans, austronesians, caucasians, nor earthly battles like between pandavas and kauravas, Rama and Ravana. Its a simple prayer for cattle, rain, wisdom, food, and progeny, couched in vedic myths. Nothing more to it. In these verses it is also shown that the homa priest conducts the sacrifice for and on behalf of the patron or yajamaan, who may or may not understand the rituals, yet receives the benefit and the priest prays that the patron becomes like Indra. This is the same today. I am glad to study these verses as it was enlightening and I have a new respect for Indra. The references to Indra as the Bull, the Invisible, the Indestructable, Wielder of the Thunderbolt, the Showerer, the Purifier, destroyer of asuric cities, Wielder of the Bow and a quiver of arrows, is an unmistakable allusion to Rudra. The maruts are ganas, and sons or attendants of Rudra, are very violent and aggressive, described as armed with golden weapons i.e. lightning and thunderbolts, as having iron teeth and roaring like lions. That Indra does not use them in slaying vrtya is reminiscent of Rudra not using Brahma and Vishnu to destroy the triple cities. Except for the name and a few other changes, the story is the same one. Thats my take. Anbudan Pathma IP: Logged |
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On Wealth, Sarasvati & Brihaspati
Wealth has to be won by deeds of glory. (Rig Veda Samhita 6-19-10) One shall be led by the fair path to riches. (Vajasaneya Samhita 5-36) One should tread the sinless path and gather wealth. (Vajasaneya Samhita 4-9) A man shall strive to win wealth by the righteous path. (Rig Veda Samhita 10-31-2) One who helps others wins wealth. (Rig Veda Samhita 4-50-9) One who gets up early morning gets the treasure. (Rig Veda Samhita 1-125-1) (Source: Article Wisdom of the ages in The CTO Forum Magazine by Dr. S. Kannan) Samvibhaga (sharing of wealth) is an important attribute of Dharma. Many Vedic Mantras direct humans to share "Let us become God's instruments and distribute fortune to the poor and needy." Similarly, Atharva Veda (3-30-7) commands humans to share their comforts with others. Apart from helping the needy, practice of Samvibhaga will unite Hindu society. Quote
Rig Veda 1.3.10-12 Sarasvati codayitrI sUnRtAnAM cetantI sumatInAm maho arNaH sarasvatI pra cetayati ketunA 1.003.10 May Sarasvati, the purifier, the bestower of food, the recompenser of worship with wealth, be attracted by our offered viands to our rite. 1.003.11 Sarasvati, the inspirer of those who delight in truth, the instructress of the right-minded, has accepted our sacrifice. 1.003.12 Sarasvati, makes manifest by her acts a mighty river, and (in her own form) enlightens all understandings.
Rig Veda 2.23.1-2 (2.23.1-2) 1. WE call thee, Lord and Leader of the heavenly hosts, the wise among the wise, the famousest of all, Pathma [This message has been edited by Pathmarajah (edited February 18, 2008).] [This message has been edited by Pathmarajah (edited February 18, 2008).] IP: Logged |
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A collection of translations on Tayumanavar
ViNNavr intiran mutaloor naarataati antoo itu atisaym ic cmayam pool inRu
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VaLLallaar On Having BEING Himself as the Guru - Vallalar in Anbu Maalai Meykandar in his magnificent Botham, describes a Theory of Guru the essence of which is applicable here in elucidating the meanings of this verse. Using the truth that there are the some pollutants aNavam Kanam and Maayai, the Mummlam, he classifies the souls into Sakalar as those with all the three defilers, PraLayakalars with Maayai dislodged, and Vinnjanakalars with only the aaNvam. Among these while the sakalars require the human and non-human teachers who only indirectly describe the essence of BEING, the PraLayakalars are those who are blessed with a human Guru and who teaches Njaanam through various kinds of discourses. Now the Vinjnjaanakalars, being infected only with anava Malam, have BEING Himself as the Guru and who teaches in various ways to purify such souls from Malam where only BEING can do it. Quite obviously VaLLalaar is such a person as are all the great Saiva philosophers who have composed metaphysically sublime verses that constitute significant components of the ever growing Sacred Tamil literature. He claims that unlike even the great souls who remain open even to ways outside their own circles, and who pour over the world scriptures and metaphysical treatises but who never got blessed with the visions of the Dance of SivaSakti in the Paradise of effulgent and pure Light, he was in fact blessed thus, something quite miraculous in his estimate. He thought with BEING, saw what He showed, listened to what He said from within, assimilated the metaphysical meanings and so forth coming from Him, enjoyed the supreme bliss and so forth in BEING. What it means and as he describes elsewhere, very early in life he was possessed by BEING and who opening his Third Eye, blessed him with Transductive Perceptions that allowed him to witness the Dance of Bliss of SivaSakti and whch also involved spiritual pedagogy by BEING Himself. Since this is a very rare kind of blessing, it is not surprising that it appears to be quite miraculous. 16 Loga IP: Logged |
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Siddhars & Siddhis
The tradition speaks of the '18 Great Siddhars' which includes Ayastya, Tirumular and Bhoga rishi. But of course there were many more persons than just eighteen. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siddhar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siddhi Some of the last known great realised souls was the 19th century Ramalingaswami, who became invisible on more than one occasion, and who disappeared on death. Another was the 20th century Yogaswami of Jaffna, Sri Lanka, who was seen in three continents at about the same time, and who himself confirmed the possibility of powers (except flying!). Yogis do not 'acquire' these skills by their training. It is 'bestowed' on them by the gods. Most realised souls in this age 'are bestowed' the following abilities: 1. omniscience (satchit - a quality that they share with the gods), 2. to be in a state of ecstatic love and bliss (ananda - a quality that they share with the gods), 3. ability to self cure (it naturally flows from the above two). Satchitananda! Nothing more! Self cure gave rise to siddha and ayurvedic medicine. Most of the other eight siddhis are 'closed' to mankind or even realised souls in this day and age. In the forthcoming sat yuga, not trapped and limited by the physical body, mind, and malams, all persons would have all the siddhis. While jivanmuktas share the same nature as the gods, they do not share their powers. This is one of the meanings of being 'one' (advaita), and 'not one' (dvaita)! On the contrary the jivanmuktas find themselves to be of utmost helpless, and rely on the gods for everything. Siddhis are different from manifesting or conjuring up items. Those are tricks like that of a performibng magician. Siddhis are also different from occult powers (maandringam) of using inner lower world beings to do one's bidding. That avenue is also closed in this age! Please take note that any swami, yogi, sadhu or holy man claiming any more powers than the above three are liars. In this case of this Tiruvannamalai flying yogi in the news recently, I have to conclude that it is just a handphone camera trick. (Though its sometimes positive to remain silent and let it beguile and inspire the ignorant masses.) The person who shot that video is a conman. Pathma [This message has been edited by Pathmarajah (edited February 27, 2008).] IP: Logged |
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Time in religion and in life
Time has inevitably entered religious worldviews as well. In the Hindu In Christian theology one distinguishes between the finite time of earthly Nothing can disappear out of space, nor jump away from the temporal axis. But would it be fair to say that what can't be accommodated in the human Could it then be that there is a reality that spills beyond space and Aside from esoteric mysticism,. fundamental physics, strengthened by No matter what time may be to physicists, and no matter how we reckon it As with everything pertaining to origins and ends, as with the ultimate V. V. Raman IP: Logged |
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Circumnambulation
Circumambulation however has deeper meaning in the religious space, connecting the pilgrim to the cosmos. Pradakshina is performed by circumambulating clockwise around a sacred person, sacred image, a sacred object or a temple in a clockwise direction. Stoddard (1994: 18) identifies four key elements of pilgrimage: destination, movement, magnitude. and motivation. Preston (1992) adds "spiritual magnetism" to these critical components of pilgrimage. The most important component, of course, is the motivated pilgrim. Circumambulation or parikrama involves all these elements, but it is the movement around, not toward a center. It is a movement encompassing an object: a temple, a holy site, a sacred mountain, a lake, a river, a city, and even includes circling around oneself. Circumambulation (parikrama or pradakshina) is imbued with deep meaning for the devotee. In the Encyclopedia of Religion, Diana Eck lists several meanings of circumambulation. Included among them are: honoring, centering, bonding, setting apart, and reaffirmation of the sacred territorial claim. Additionally, circumambulation may symbolizes the fluidity of meaning characteristic of Hindu thought, such as: completeness yet continuity, fulfillment and quest, contentment and pursuit, comprehension and mystery. The pole star, for example, is the epitome of firmness in the Indian cosmology, yet the Hindu cosmos pulsates; it dissolves and re-emerges. Most mandirs are furnished with passageways so as to facilitate circumambulation . Circumambulation takes the worshipper from the doorway of the sanctuary, housing the image of symbol of the Deity, around the sanctuary in a clockwise direction where further icons introduce other aspects of the divine. An interesting story from the Hindu scriptures is Lord Ganesha circumambulating around His parents, which is accorded a higher status than circumambulating the entire Universe - signifying that the parents in Hindu ethos occupy the same status as God. Source : Partial : http://www.colorado.edu/Conferences/pilgrimage/papers/Bhardwaj.html IP: Logged |
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Message of the Vedas By J.G. Arora
As per the Atharva Veda, âDevasya pashya kavyam na mamaar na jiryatiâ, (See the divine scripture. It neither grows old, nor ends). Vedas are ancient Bharatâs timeless and divine scriptures to guide humans in their day-to-day life as also in their pursuit of self-realisation. Written in Sanskrit, the Vedas are the proud possession and earliest books of mankind. They are the foundation of Sanatan Dharma commonly known as Hinduism. Vedas contain sublime thoughts in sublime language and represent the worldâs ancient-most literature. First mantra of the Rig Veda is the first known poem in the world. Four Vedas viz. Rig Veda, Yajur Veda, Sama Veda and Atharva Veda, contain altogether 20416 mantras. Rig Veda is the oldest and has maximum number of mantras. Each Vedic mantra has its Devata; and the Rishi (sage) to whom the mantra was revealed and its Chhanda (metre). And all Vedas have got their respective Mantra Samhitas, braahmana, aaranyaka and Upanishad books. You are âSupremeâ While addressing humanity, Atharva Veda informs every seeker, âShukro-asi, bhrajo-asi, swar-asi, jyotir-asiâ (You are pure, you are radiant, you are blissful and you are enlightened). Carrying this message further, various Upanishads proclaim, aham brahmasmi (I am the Supreme: Brihad Aaranyak Upanishad); tat tvam asi (you are the same: Chhandogya Upanishad); pragyanam brahmam (know the Supreme: Aitreya Upanishad) and ayam atma Brahmam (this Atma is Supreme: Mandukya Upanishad). These four maxims are called four Maha Vakyas (great maxims). Casteless and classless society Vedas are all-embracing and stipulate a casteless and classless society. Vedas treat all humans with the same affection. Vedas speak of nobility and one-ness of entire humanity (krinvanto vishvam aryam). Mantra number 10-13-1 of Rig Veda addresses entire humanity as divine children (Shrunvantu vishve amrutsya putraha). Vide Mantra number 5-60-5 of Rig Veda, the Divine Poet declares, âAll men are brothers; no one is big, no one is small, all are equalâ. Mantra number 16.15 of Yajur Veda reiterates that all men are brothers; no one is superior or inferior.â Mantra number 3-30-1 of Atharva Veda wants all humans to be affectionate and to love one another as the cow loves her newly born calf. Underlining harmony still further, mantra number 3-30-6 of Atharva Veda commands humankind to dine together, and be as firmly united as the spokes attached to the hub of chariot wheel. Last mantra of Rig Veda further emphasises unity and harmony of entire humanity, âSamani Vha Aakuti, Samana Hrudyani Vha, Samanam Astu Vo Mano, Yatha Vha Su Saha Asti.â (âLet your aims be one, let your hearts be one, let your minds be one, and let your unity go from strength to strengthâ). Mother Earth and harmony Though ecology is claimed to be a modern concept, the best tribute ever paid to environment is found in Vedas. 63 mantras of Atharva Veda (12.1.1. to 12.1.63) pertain to Prithvi-sukta (Hymn to Earth), which glorifies Mother Earth. Vedic sages regarded Earth as sacred and inviolable. Mantra number 12.1.12 of Atharva Veda calls Earth as the mother and humanity as its children (Mata bhumih putro aham prithivyaha). Prithvi Sukta proclaims Earth as the mother of all creatures, and solicits its blessings. According to Prithvi Sukta, Mother Earth is adorned with heights, slopes, plains, hills, mountains, forests, plants, herbs and treasures; and She takes care of every creature that breathes and stirs. May She give us joy, wealth, prosperity, good fortune and glory! Universal peace and harmony are integral to the Vedas. Famous Shanti Mantra (Hymn of Peace) in Yajur Veda for peace and harmony to pervade the entire universe is as follows:- âI pray for peace to pervade all the worlds; I pray for peace in the Sky and Earth; peace in waters; peace in herbs, vegetation and forests; peace among all people and rulers of the world; peace in entire universe; peace for everyone everywhere. Peace, real peace. I pray for that very peace!â Vedas propagate universal harmony and well-being of entire humanity. Vedic sentiment is âSarve janah sukhino bhavantuâ (may every one be happy)!â Many Vedic mantras direct humans to share their wealth with others. Rig Veda (1-15-8) stipulates, âLet us become Godâs instruments and distribute fortune to the poor and needy.â Rig Veda (10.117.6) further declares that not sharing your wealth with others is sinful, and any one who eats alone incurs sin. Similarly, Atharva Veda (3-30-7) commands humans to share their comforts with others. Constant efforts made for propagating the Vedic heritage and Sanskrit will certainly save Vedic echoes and ethos in the land of Vedas as Atharva Veda proclaims, âEffort is in my right hand, and victory in my leftâ (kritam may dakhshine haste, jayo may savya aahitah). IP: Logged |
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Some Vedic Quotes
"What God shall we adore with our oblation?...He is the God of gods and none beside Him...O Father, thou Creator of Heaven and Earth, by eternal Law ruling - protect us...O Almighty, the Lord of beings, you alone pervade all the created beings..." (Book 10, Hymn: 121.8-10) / p. 98 "We all possess various thoughts and plans and diverse are the callings of men. The carpenter seeks out that which is cracked, the physician the ailing, the priest the worshipper......." (Book 9, Hymn 112.1) / p. 84 "The man who has awakened to the knowledge, becomes perfect. Let him speak for us to the gods..." (Book 5, Hymn 65.1) / p. 49 "May they, our Fathers who in their skill belong to the lowest order, attain higher one, those of midmost may attain the highest. May they who have attained a life of spirit, the knower of sacrifice, the guileless, help us when called upon...." (Book 10, Hymn 15.1-2) / p. 87 "Let gods lead us, let there be a stable union of the wife and husband... May authority be ever yours (i.e., wife's) in speech. Happy be you and prosper with your children, and be ever watchful to rule the household. Unite yourself with this man your husband. So authority will be yours in speech.. May the kinsman of the bride thrive well.." (Book 10, Hymn 85.26-28) / p. 94 "May the gods grant riches to the men more liberal than the terrifying..." (Book 1, Hymn 185.9) / p. 26 IP: Logged |
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Sivagnanabodham The discussion of Tamils' philosophical treatise Sivagnanabodham is a translation from Raurava Aagama or not is ongoing since the time of Maraimalai Adikal. There are opinions of both sides but nothing conclusive. There is a claim the twelve aphorisms of Sivagnanabodham is taken from the twelve aphorisms in the Paasa vimosana Padala of the Jnana Caanda of the Rourawa aagama. There is no doubt that Meykandaar revealed the treatise of Sivajnanabodham in Tamil in the thirteenth centuary AD. But there are some says that the kaaNdikai urai is not his original work. There are eight small treatises of pre MeykaNdaar early Saiva siddhanta in Sanskrit called Ashda pirakaranam. Srila Sri Arumuga naavalar mentioned them in his second book of Saiva Vina vidai Question and Answer no.85. Among Them are Thathva Sangragam, Thathva thiraya nirnayam, Bhoga kaarikai, Moksha kaarikai and para moksha niraasa kaarikai the five books were written by the Satyojothi of Kashmir during 8th centuary AD. The other books are Thaththuva pirakaasikai by Bhoja devar, Naatha Kaarikai by Bhatta Ramakanthar, Ratna Thirayam by Sri Kantha. All the eight mannuals are written in very concise and complex argumentative verses called kaarikai form. The collection was published as one book under the title of Astaprakaranam with the commentary by the Pandita Srivrajavallabhadvivedi publications in Varanasi in 1988. Tamil translation of these eight treatises were published in two small volumes by the Sivaagama Siddhanda Paribalana Sangam of Thevakoddai in 1927. The 12th aphorism of the Sanskrit Sivajnanabodham ends with a verse " Aevam vidyaach Sivajnanabodhe Saivaarththa nirnayam". This means " Thus the Saiva theology is established in Sivajnanabodham". Some says 'thus in Sivajnanabodha' means the MeykaNdars Tamil Sivajnanabodham. The twelvth aphorism in Tamil does not have this verse. Kashmir is the place where Siva Siddhanda was flourshing well. There was exchange of ideas between Tamil Naadu and Kashmir. The texts are shared between them. Even in Thirumanthiram song No. 98 says 'Thaththuva jnanam uraiththathu thaazhvarai'. Thazh varai means on the low plains at the end of himalayas and here it indicates Kashmir. Some says it is Mount Kailash but geographycally it is still a high mountain not the low hill plain. Ugrajothi,Satyojothi, Ramakantha 1, Ramakantha ii are well known Saiva siddhanda scholars from kashmir and extensively quoted in the pre MeykaNdar Saiva texts. Somasambhu, Agorasivam, Appaiya deekshitar, Neelakandar are well known Saivaite scholars from Tamil Naadu in the pre MeykaNdaar era. While kashmir scholars quotes extensively form the Aagamas of South indian origin in their books the Tamil Naadu scholars quotes extensively from the texts of these Kashmir scholars. All theese scholars are part of the eighteen greate teachers of Saiva- Darsana of pre MeykaNdaar time. Nanthi arul petta naatharai naadidil IP: Logged |
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Some Verses from Tayumanavar
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A Satchitananda Experience > Jill Bolte Taylor - TED In the case of the brain scientist, it is some brain damage (of a small It seems like she 'stumbled' into this experience, whereas the mystics Once the left brain was 'silenced', it freed the mind to be connected Paraphrasing her somewhat, one may think of the brain hemispheres as The self is indeed disembodied at all times, always at one with While the scientist stumbled into the experience Hindu mystics have Meditation is clear; sitting in silence, doing nothing, in maunam, In worship, for instance in temple worship, observing the daily puja - All of traditional Hindu arts, dances and music is geared towards Over time, these repetitive practices draws us into perfecting being This experience of samadhi of satchitananda is just one perfection of There is another aspect, that of piercing consciousness into awareness There is yet a third state or perfection. This is transcending the I have been fortunate to meet and know several persons who have entered Once established in these practices, one may experience these states We have shared between us many thousands of experiences and still do It is these that makes us speak forcefully with conviction, with So, no need for a stroke, no need to be left brain damaged. There are Pathma IP: Logged |
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The Death Experience Once our golden body of light relinquishes its physical body (annamaya We need no priests, just a simple gathering of loved ones, the corpse Crematoriums provide spaces for these final services that follows the Most of the doubts and uncertainties over Hindu practices would not The way to live is to cherish each moment with loved ones (and Then there is no reason to keep a worn out discarded garment lying Relatives of the deceased should be happy for the deceased as the Unleashed the golden soul body soars into the sky right through the When this first principles and overview are kept in focus, then Pathma IP: Logged |
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Envisioning the Gods
In the past our sages and saints had visions of god and gods during their worship or meditations. They also had sleep-visions, transductive perceptions, during the periods after deep sleep. These TPs are quite different from ordinary dreams. In these visions, with the eyes closed, they saw in their inner minds various images quite unlike anything in this world and mostly indescribable. But in order to explain they used analogies and similarities, things we are used to in this world. In their meditations they saw a point of swirling yellow-golden light and they described it as 'like the sun' or surya. They saw a faint glow of blueish pale white disc which resembles a moon and called it chandra. They saw a large glowing flame and called it agni. They saw a rain like shower of light and called it cipivista. They saw the whole of creation floating in an all pervading cosmic soup and called it visnum. They saw that this cosmic soup was a great peace, a great silence, auspicious, and called it sivam, and flowing with ecstatic love and termed it the flow of soma. They saw this Great Flame, a Pillar of Light like an endless linga emerge from nowhere, from the Nothing, and called it Shiva. They saw the anthropomorphic gods suddenly emerge from the primordial celestial waters or soup, and so they called it Narayana, which is Naara (emerge from) + aayana (waters). And so on. They also saw anthropomorphic images in their visions. Sometimes just a golden muscular arm, wearing armlets and wielding weapons and which seems like that of an awesome and majestic commander of gods and devonic armies, and praised it as 'namo hiranyabaahave senaan'. And so on. As the visions unfolded one after another sometimes with these trance like state lasting for hours, the sage had enough time to write it down and string it, and so unfolded a hymn. It is a record of a vision. Many of these visions manifested repeatedly, and to many persons over milleniums and over large geographic spaces, and so the hymns were perfected, and ratified by the 'knowers' or 'those who have seen'. In tamil these knowers are called 'kandavar' or 'arivar'. Sometimes words were heard along with the visions, and those who heard were called 'rishis' in sanskrit. All these words; surya, chandra, agni, visnum, sivam, cipivista, narayana, soma, etc., are all adjectives. Since these adjectives came to be identified with anthropomorphic images in their morphing visions, they then became nouns, or names of various gods. Since most of these adjective-nouns correspond to some object here in this physical world, like the sun, moon, fire, etc., over time it came to be identified with them. Take it as nouns and it appears like there are many gods. But take it as adjectives and we see that they refer to a one indivisible multifaceted conscious entity. These visions are something that is within us, in our stilled inner mind, and has nothing to do with the external world. If we have to describe a supernova, we would describe it like a million nuclear bombs exploding at the same time in your face. You see, we'll always have to liken it to something all of us can at least remotely identify with. But all the same, everyone knows a supernova is not a nuclear explosion. Rather it is the expansion stage in the process of a collapse. None of the vedic hymns or bakti hymns would make any sense if we refer it to objects in the physical world. Rather, it would appear as most orientalists put it, as nature and idol worship of a polytheistic religion. Take it as visions and everything falls into place and makes sense. So, Hindus don't worship any of the celestial bodies like planets and suns. They worship the gods who have manifested to them in their visions but are nowhere in this physical or mental world. Of course the vast majority don't quite make all these fine distinctions and ignorantly identify the celestial bodies as gods, or relating to these celestial bodies. Thats quite all right as this is just another learning phase in spiritual development and understanding. If they persist, eventually a single vision will clear up all the misunderstandings. I'd like to remind Hindus that the gods they worship are not at all connected with anything in this world, or mind, not at all within the dimensions of time and space. They transcend it. Regards. Pathma IP: Logged |
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Saivism is Free of Shastras
A: Your question raises a fundamental issue of human will and freedom. And here I am reminded of the words of AruNandi in his magnificent Irupa Irupatu: oodi miiLkena aadal paarttidu: BEING watching your antics waits for your return after letting you free to do as you will. Saivism does not tie you down to its way of life and if you want to go away it lets you go away and live with a different religion or without a religion. You can exercise your free will but then in that exercise how can you DENY TRUTH? The human free will is there only to discover the TRUTH and when in this exercise it seeks to lock itself in UNTRUTHS, then it will be unhealthy and Siva will not let you do that. There will be troubles and problems but all to free man from the hold of falsities. Man is free but not free to lock himself in falsities. Freedom is allowed only where the search is for TRUTH. Now you must note also another expression of FREEDOM in Tamil Saivism. There is OPENNESS and this openness is retained even for the SCRIPTURES. Unlike in other religions Saivism recognizes the evolutionary dimensions of the human spirit and the fact that there can be continuous production of scriptures, temple architecture dance and music forms and so forth. While there may be selectional restrictions imposed upon such novelties, but nevertheless novelties are NOT disallowed. Even if you take the religious texts there is Paripaadal (c. 100 AD) Tevaram (Thirumurais) and Divviya Prabantam (4th to 9th cent), Tiruppukaz (14th cent) Tiruvarutpaa (19thcent.) and so forth. At any time where there comes along a genius and pours out from his depths hymns of immense beauty and spirituality that touches the soul and lifts it up (as was said by Sulgi in 2000 BC itself), the Saivite mind will receive such hymns and benefit by such NEW disclosures of the Divine Spirit. In this Tamil Saivism allows itself for self-renewal and perhaps it is this ingredient of its culture that has made it survive from very ancient times and for several millenniums. And there is another aspect to this: Tamil Saivism offers freedom for the individuals themselves become such aruLaaLar or Adiyaar. Anyone is FREE to sing hymns, write metaphysical texts, create new art forms and so forth and through that enjoy the creative impulses within. A Saivite is FREE to produce his own scriptures or at least attempt at such productions and he will succeed in adding to the already existing pool of scriptures if he happens to be blessed by BEING in such productive tasks. There is NO HOLDING to single scripture as THE scripture and tie down the whole humanity to it. Agamas are continuously produced as are hymns, raising of temples and so forth. And anyone is free to produce a new class of Saivite scriptures and enrich the tradition. Any one who understands the history of Saivism will note these elements there and because of which it has survived while other religions that tried to displace it, declined and disappeared. So Saivism, peculiarly enough, while recommending various kinds of models of behavior, there is NO compulsion or threat, open or hidden and which emerges from a maturity of mind that is indeed rare to find in the world. Loga IP: Logged |
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On Nataraja
It is important to know why creation is depicted as the beating of Secondly, I would like to draw your attention to the 'veiling grace' Souls and world are like the seeds of Siva, created by him, emanated Is there anything wrong with babies? No at all. But they have to grow Surely these are better examples at explaining creation, veiling A point I am making is that if you look at it this way, it appears And the use of the Nataraja murthi symbol, as well as the anology of Pathma IP: Logged |
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Conventional Religions and the Real Religion
There was a time when religion held unquestioning sway and everyone abided by it. But as new religions and variants came into being there was a clamor for supremacy. Instead of religion giving life, knowledge and ethics to society, it was religion that was to receive energy from society. Most often than not human frailty worked on it and gave it a tragic expression, assuming a militant spirit and brought all the ignoble concomitants of discrimination, marginalisation, racism, bigotry and ultimately to war in various guises. It sowed enmity and hatred instead of love and peace, contempt and distrust instead of respect and good will, hypocrisy and corruption instead of sincerity and honesty. The awakening of this spirit had repercussions on its internal workings, doctrines and practices. Whatever benign influences where smothered. Formalities, nominalism, commercialism, skepticism of sciences and materialism began to hold sway. Most of all was the introduction of prejudices and superstitions in its clashes with other religions. Doctrines became dogma. Samayam became matam. Now its serves just as a label to differentiate one from another, to mark out people whether one is with us or against us. These conventional religions lay stress on doctrines and observances, and make extravagant claims regarding them. Authorship is attributed to God and the texts are the infallible words of God, and it is guaranteed that the practices leads one to the final truths and highest conceivable happiness. The followers ignorantly imbibe this story as few endeavor to examine the validity of these claims. Claims and beliefs are instilled since childhood and the faithful grow in unquestioning faith and love of it, strengthened by the faith of the surrounding community. The belief in the divine origin, coupled with the hope of reward and fear of punishment, compelled adherence. With ignorance and blind zeal, beliefs crystallized. Those who have not been inoculated in these beliefs are unable to accept these claims. That the beliefs have no substantial or insecure foundations and crumbles upon the impact of demonstrable truths is repressed by further claims. In order to silence them and remove doubts, attempts are made to elevate religion to mystic levels, transcending not only science but also the scientific approach. With the advent of scientific knowledge, rationalism and discovery of the world, most tall claims by religions are falling apart in the face of adverse demonstrable truths. Faulty doctrines, structural defects and inability to lead a soul to its goal, which are features of nearly all religions leads to its failure as a samaya. If a religion holds out a goal, it must give an account of the path, a road map and the means of attaining it. But few religions possess such a scientific structures as they may not possess one or the other. Such is the state of conventional religions. A real religion is dynamic. It must be rational with demonstrable truths. It must be able to uplift a soul and ultimately it it to its goal. A real religion is not a creature of mankind but a sustainer of the people instead of being sustained by it. Most of us have had some 'religious experiences' whether we realise it or not. At some time or other we have experienced altruism, where we exhibited real sympathy for someone else and assisted them in some way, perhaps a donation, or cooked a meal for the family, or drove someone to see the doctor, or made some sacrifices for the benefit of others. This selfless service produced a calm serene joy in us, a joy without excitement. This is a religious experience of an ordinary type. Such actions are found in all societies and even in criminals, transcending the conventional notions of right and wrong, and us and them. This power is pervasive in mankind and even animals. Animals too exhibit features of altruism like selfless cooperation where the group concerns supersede that of the individual, making religious experiences universal. The outstanding feature of all religious experience is goodness. A real religion manifests itself in goodness. It must therefore be a cause of goodness. A concomitant of goodness is truth. Goodness and truths goes together, as there is never goodness that is not based on truth or vice versa. Where there is goodness and truths, there is peace and harmony. This is a blissful state. So wherever there is goodness there is truth and bliss. Real religion thus manifests itself as truth, goodness and bliss, or what Saivism calls sat-chit-ananda. A single act of goodness lasts forever and sat literally means that which lasts forever. Since satchitananda is everlasting, it is real, and as it is pervasive, it is universal. It permeates through all life and all conventional religions. As even the most saintly of persons unceasingly has the urge to do more, to go higher, there is no limit to this urge. The objective of the urge is therefore perfection. Real Religion may therefore be defined as the inward dynamic power which urges all to strive for perfection. As it produces perfect goodness, it must be something greater than that. Acting on different people it produces different degrees of goodness. These degrees may be defined as the goals of different conventional religions. This universal power manifesting as an urge in mankind, in all life, for the preservation of life and the pursuit of ideals, must have been put there by some higher beneficent power, which itself is all pervading, and the source of goodness, truth and bliss. The function of this power is, step by step through various religions and philosophies, the evolution of the world as a whole, to the attainment of perfection, that is, attainment to the source of this satchitananda. This Real Religion, which underlies all religions and all life, the omniscient, all mighty and all loving power which controls and guides the universe, and provides the urge and intuitive knowledge to the soul in its onward march to perfection, is called in the Saiva religion as the Power of God, or the Love of God or Siva-Shakti. Saiva Siddhanta proceeds from here to built up its philosophy, based not on authority, but on demonstrable truths, or axiomatic truths. Some of the first postulates are; 1. something cannot come out of nothing, or become nothing, 2. change is a rearrangement of components, 3. whatever has no components, or is further unanalysable, cannot undergo change, 4. that which does not change is real, is eternal, 5. things change under the action of a force or power, 6. that power (Shakti) is held by an Intelligent Being (Siva). These rational postulates, prima facie, makes all conventional religions and philosophies redundant. Pathma
1. 'The Saiva School of Hinduism' by Principal Emeritus S. Shivapadasundaram, Victoria College, Sri Lanka, 1934, based on the Siva Gnana Siddiyar by Arulnandi, 13th century. 2. Thiruvarulpayan by Umapati Sivachariyar, 13th century scholar sage and disciple of Meykandar, and who wrote 8 of the 14 Siddhanta Shastras, 9 books in tamil and 2 in sanskrit. IP: Logged |
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Predestination, Worship and Agamas
Everyone please keep in mind that we have no concepts of predestination or fate. Everyone keep in mind that we worship the Gods, and not the planets, meteors, That the astrologers came to link the planets to Hindu gods is a devastating This is what we need to delink now; delink the Gods from the planets, delink Appeals to the Gods for their benign intervention is the basis of worship, for Where there is worship, that makes it a religion and not just a dharma. It has Christians and muslims pray, whereas Hindus worship. Its not the same thing. The Gods respond to the worship, not by providing wealth, spouse, etc., as Pathma IP: Logged |
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Ghosts in Hindu Religion â the Preta Concept in Hinduism
In Hinduism, there is the concept of Kshooshma shareera apart from the physical body. This Kshooshma shareera is a sort of carbon copy of all the impressions of the five senses of the physical body. It is said in the Brahma Sutra that this acquired impressions is carried by the soul when it leaves the body. What is left of these impressions on natural world, also referred as pinda shareeram, are completely destroyed through the various rituals performed to the dead in Hindu religion. So the primary aim of Hindu death rituals is to destroy all the impressions that are left of a dead person in natural world and to release the soul. Therefore, what is popularly referred as ghost is completely destroyed by Hindu dead ceremonies. If you carefully examine all the ghost stories, you will realize that the ghosts are associated with those people who had met with an unnatural death or whose âpinda shareeraâ was not destroyed through the usual Hindu dead rituals. Such âpinda shareeraâ will only get destroyed after a longtime and the natural destruction will depend on the aspirations and desires of the âpinda shareera.â And such people are believed to roam the graveyards and there are references in the Puranas of Lord Shiva having an army of pretas or ghosts. Now can a preta enter another personâs body? No. This is against the basic tenant of Santana Dharma (Hinduism) as a body can only have a single soul. But hearing about the unnatural death of a person can make the listener sympathize with the dead person. And sympathy will become empathy and it can go to such an extent that the listener will assume the role of an agent to help the person who had met with unnatural death. This particular aspect has been widely used in Indian movies and folk stories and is often misunderstood as ghost. All latent impression of dead person referred as âpinda shareeraâ is destroyed by Hindu dead rituals like Shraadha and Tarpana. So the question of such souls roaming around as ghosts does not exist. Those âpinda shareeraâ that did not receive proper burial get destroyed in due natural course. But the greatness of Santana Dharma is that while performing rituals to dead ancestors, people knowingly or unknowingly perform rituals to all the dead. Thus it is believed that annual sharaadha ceremony performed destroys all the latent impressions of all the dead. Thus what is called ghost is properly dealt in Hindu religion and is given proper rest through rituals. Abhilash IP: Logged |
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I thought about the question, "Which is superior, Sanskrit or Tamil?" Sanskrit and Tamil are equal in their greatness. We cannot say that the one is superior to the other. The reason is that the Vedas are in Sanskrit, and in Tamil we have the Kural. If there were nothing equal to the Vedas in Tamil, Sanskrit should have been said to be superior. The Kural is present in Tamil as the equal of the Vedas. Both languages, Sanskrit and Tamil, are now seen to be equally great. "There hardly exists in the literature of the world a collection of maxims in which we find such lofty wisdom." The world knows of Chanakya, also known as Kautilya (350-275 BCE) and his Arthashastra, as well as Sun Tzu (400-320 BCE) and his Art of War as it deals with statecraft and military strategies. Lesser known is Tiruvalluvar (circa 200 BCE, some say 200 CE) and his Tirukural which deals primarily in Ethics but devotes some chapters to statecraft and defence.
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The consciousness exemplified in the Tirukural on war and statecraft was and still is the mass consciousness of the tamils then and till today! It is strategic, realistic and proactive. It is not an accident that the most popular god among the tamils is Lord Skanda-Muruga, the god of war! Whereas this is quite different from the mass consciousness of the people in the rest of India especially in the north where their Indian policy makers and bureaucrats should study the Tirukural and reorient themselves. There is no one who is as merciless as Tiruvalluvar is to cowardice, dishonor and injustice! In Tiruvalluvar's eyes, India today would have been described as a disorientated, senseless and bumbling coward bringing dishonor to humanity and should be immediately put to death! Verse 236 Pathma NOTES: Tiruvalluvar, circa 200 BCE (some say 200 CE) was a lower class weaver, considered a dalit today, lived in Mayilapur, Chennai in South India. King Ashoka's famed reign had just ended and the great Chola Empire of Tamil Nadu, where the weaver lived was just beginning its thousand-year rule. Here he wrote the Tirukural; kural is a short strope, a sloka in two lines, in the difficult and disciplined venpa metre. It consists of 133 chapters, each containing 10 slokas and each chapter deals with one aspect of life. The 1330 slokas covers Aram (Dharma or Virtues), Porul (Artha or Wealth and Statecraft), and Inbam (Kama or Love). Due to its ecumenical tenets it is free of the dogmatic bias that commonly attends religious scriptures and therefore has been claimed by other religions as their own. In the matter of authorship, it is probable that not all the maxims are Tiruvalluvar's own, but that he also versified some which were already ancient maxims of the people. Today the Tirukural is sworn upon in the courts of law in Tamilnadu and taught in schools, where children memorise the verses and chant in competitions. Aram translates as 'justness' (which flows from within as compassion, charity and justice, and which is inherent in everyone) and not dharma which is 'righteousness or duty' (imposed from the outside by society). There is no word in the sanskrit language for aram. It is not in their vocabulary. Hence the shortcoming. A great deal can be learnt of the character, life and status of Tiruvalluvar by the legends passed down orally relating to his wife, Vasuki, considered the epitome of devotion and wifehood; traditional intelligent cooperation with her husband thats manifests the marvellous harmony in their marriage. When the proposal of marriage of Vasuki, daughter of an affluent farmer impressed with Tiruvalluvar, was brought to him, he decided to test his future bride. He gave her a handful of sand and requested he boils it into rice. In perfect faith and without the slightest hesitation she boiled the sand which miraculously became rice which she then served her future husband. To a question by a guest as to whether an ascetic life or that of a householder is better, Tiruvalluvar called for his wife who was drawing water from a well. Instantly abandoning her task she rushed to her husband's side, but to the astonishment of the guest, the bucket of water did not fall back into the well but remained suspended in mid air till Vasuki returned to her chore. Tiruvalluvar's unspoken answer to the question by his guest was it was best to follow the path of a householder if a wife is like Vasuki. On her dying bed, Tiruvalluvar asked her if there was anything that he could do for her. Vasuki replied that she has only one question; all her life while she set out his meals, he had requested a cup of water and a needle be placed along side, which she did. "Why did you bid me do this, although not once did you ever use it. He replied that while serving him, if any rice dropped, he would have used the needle to pick it up and rinse it, but in all these years you never dropped a single rice and therefore there was no occasion to use it. With that Vasuki breathed her last. To this day, Vasuki is the role modal for the Tamil women in much the same way Sita and Savitri is in the north. An English translation in prose has been used in this article, thereby losing the rhythmic beauty of the Tamil language as well as innuendos, nuances, admonitions, puns, wit, insinuations, and satire, but nevertheless still serves well to impart the intended meanings. The sage and lawgiver speaks of the king's duty to execute murderers, speaks of a strong military, of spies, advisors with personal agendas, of fools and their ways and wastes. He knows of the wiles of real enemies and has much to tell modern man about overcoming opposition and surviving the attacks of foes. He speaks of making money and of how money is squandered. The weaver has no mercy when he speaks of the preservation of honor - no mercy at all. Sir C.P. Ramasamy Iyer places a befitting tribute to its grandeur on record. In his preface to the French Translation of Thirukural Sir C.P.Ramasamy Iyer says â It has been rightly remarked that the Kural addresses itself to all classes and communities, and indeed to the whole human race and charges itself with the promulgation of virtue and of right conduct in the guise of familiar and friendly advice. In a series of pithy maxims, it lays down rules of universal acceptability dealing with most of our domestic and social problems and situations. In the well known words of the philosopher, Spinoza, it is written sub specie eternitate though characterized by tenderness and comprehensive human sympathy, human life and love in all their forms as well as the regular of existence in the social and economic fields are alike dealt with on the basis of practical spiritualityâ. Thirukural had been translated into the following languages. 1) Burmese Mr. Myo Thant, Thirukkural 2) Chinese Mr.Chi Eng Hsi, Thirukkural (1967) 3). Czech Mr. Kamil V Zvelebil, Thirukural (1952-1954 4) Dutch Mr. D.Kat, Thirukural (Netherlands, 1964) 5) Fiji, Mr.S.L Berwick, Na. Thirukkurala, 1964) 6) Finnish Mr. Aalto, Pentit, Kural - The Ancient Tamil Classic (1972) 7) German Albrecht, Fenz and K. Lalithambal: Thirukural von Thiruvalluvar aus dem Tamil, Madurai (1977), Mr.A.F Cammera, Thirukural Leipzig (1803) Mr Karl. Graul, Der Kural des Thiruvalluvar, (London 1854), Mr. Karl Graul, Der Tamu lische gnomes dichtar Thiruvalluvar, (Leipzig, 1865) Mr.Frederick Rickert Thirukural, selections, (Berlin, 1847) Mr. William and Norgate, Der Kural des Thiruvalluvar, (2nd ed, London, 1866) , French Ariel, M, Kural de Thiruvalluvar (traduits du tamoul), Paris, 1848, Barrigue de, Fontaineu, G, Le livre de l"amour de Thiruvalluva, Paris, 1889, Danielou, Alain, Thiruvallouvar Kural, Pondicherry, 1942, Jacolliot, Louis, Kural de Thiruvalluvar, (selections) Paris, 1767 Lamairesse, M, thirukural in French, Pondicherry, 1867) 9) Latin Graul, Charles, Kural of Thiruvalluvar, Tranquebar, 1866 Veeramamunivar, Thirukural (Books I and II), London, 1930 10) Malay Ismail, Hussein: Thirukural sastera kalasik Tamil yang, Kuala Lumpur, 1967, Ramily Bin Thakir Thirukural (in verses), Kuala Lumpur, 1964 11) Polish Umadevi, Wandy Dynowskiev, Thiruvalluvar Kural, Madras, 1958 12) Russian J.J Glazov and Krishnamurthi, A, Thirukural, a book on virtue, politics and love, Moscow, 1963 Glazov, Thirukural in couplets with illustrations, Moscow, 1974 13)Swedish Frykholm Ingya, Thirukural, Uddavalla, 1971. The list is incomplete. The Tirukural is more well knows for its ethics. A Selection of Verses on Ethics
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